Should we filter bad words?

[admin]

Over the last few days I have read, with much concern, that people feel that the new format may change the real value of this forum. One of the most often citations of this is the "bad word filter." Although it's not very long, and certainly doesn't try to be very strict, it has seemed to cause a bit of a stir.

Please let us know what you think. The poll will run for one week. This is not a vote on actually changing it, but rather an opportunity for the membership as a whole to express their thoughts on this issue. Help us understand what makes this fourm "work" and what you think can make it better.

Thank you,

Robb

[Bluecoller-eddie]

OUCH you ashcaned tens of thousands of hours of research OUCH !!!!!


When some cowardly little pr*ck questions my patriotism, I reserve the
right to answer thusly;

Awww Boo Hoo, little taykee doesn't like me
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Author: Tayken
Date: 11-02-03 02:25
Blue Coller, you are off your rocker old man. I don't like supporters or
terrorism and worshipers of Saddam. In other words Bluecoller, I don't like
you. It eats me up inside when I see people like you gloat when our boys are
killed.
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taykee, you are a worthless, cowardly, lying ,goddam little cocksucker. Not
wanting to murder innocent
people is NOT supporting either terrorism or saddam. I am a grown MAN, and
grown-ups do not fear
boogey-men 6000 miles away with toy airplanes.

Almost a year ago, in my first thread on this board, I told jack, kehvan,
and whitey that I had more to fear
from lightning than saddam. Real men don't sh*t their pants over phony
boogey-men.
<http://www.ariannaonline.com/interact/phorum/read.php?f=4&i=21973&t=21943>

It's frightened little whack-off warriors like you who have to murder tens
of thousands of innocent people
in order to FEEL safe. But just because your little pee-pee gets hard when
our bombs are blowing children
to bits, and you feel big and brave doesn't mean that your a man. You are
NOT a man and never will be,
because you don't have what it takes..... Courage.............It's because
of your cowardice that our people
are dying in this phony war, and that pisses me off.
You are a disgrace to this country.
You are a disgrace to manhood.
You are a disgrace to mankind.

What puzzles me is, the basis of fear, is losing something of value, and
offhand I cant think of anything more
useless in this universe than your existence.
So why are you afraid of losing something as meaningless as your life. Why
don't you, the next
time your sucking your gun barrel, just pull the trigger. After all your
simply a godless, soulless, sub-human worthless, vile, blob of putrid
protoplasm.

Awww gee, taykee doesn't like me.......think I'll go pout....... :cry: .


If someone questioned my patriotism like that in a bar, I would bust his fu*cken head with
a fu*cken beer bottle period. But that's just the liberal in me. Freedom of expression. :wink:


On edit; You could have a separate board for the tea and crumpet crowd. :roll:

----------- IRAQ IS INNOCENT of 911---
-----bush $hit his pants on 911--
--Real men don't grovel to their corporate masters.--
Have they taught conan the republican how to use a fork yet ??

-------------- bluecoller -- the grumpy old kraut ---- :evil:

[Jitoen Le Tur]

All messages filters do is make it hard to post. Creative people will always find a way around the filter. You should only delete posters who are deliberately trying to sabatoge the forum. After all even Rosie O'Donnell admits to saying "F*U*C*K."

[Hooligan]

I am in favor of as much free speech as possible (short of spamming the board). I use the dirty words pretty sparingly, but I value my freedom to use them when I feel strongly about something. One thing that keeps me OFF other forums is the constant speech policing and overzealous regulation. It always results in boring debate, whining, and petty snitching. I'd much rather read dirty posts than boring ones.

[Kim]

Robb,

I could care less if you filter the dirty words. I'm an adult and have had a wealth of opportunities to not only hear dirty words but use them myself.

My thought on the dirty words is that resorting to their use shows an inability to use appropriate words to express your thoughts. Not everybody has the skill to put someone in their place without calling them names.

I am not easily offended but understand that some are. I would prefer to have no filters but would hope that you, as admin of this board, would see the difference between the vulgar spammer on the last board and blue-collar eddie :lol:

Whatever you decide to do, I can live with. Good luck!

[Jay_Esbe]

I'm totally amazed you'd ask this, given what happened at the other forum.

Now personally, I can swear like a fuckin' sailor all day long, and have no objection to explitives per-se.

But the advantage of having the filter in place, is that it leaves exactly the correct impression in posts where the poster has made no points based on evidence, appeal to reason, or facts; Thus the posts of morons simply read bleep bleep, as they really should.

And really, if one is remotely creative, and feels the need to use salt, they can always type $h*t and it's still perfectly comprehensable.

I'm all for democracy, but have to say based on 6 months of experience at the other forum, watching so many people request that the filter be removed on some kind of pseudo-principle of "free speech", is like watching this bunch shoot themselves right in the foot.

Really, I can only speak for myself, but I can make MY points without resorting to the gutter, and I appreciate the fact the with the filter in place, it prevents this place from turning into Kehvan's personal beastiality, incestual sodomy, and pedophilia advertisements.

This forum -I thought- was supposed to be about the exchange of ideas, and debate on points of disagreement. I fail to see why anyone can't make their point without obscenites, unless of course their only point is a great big pile of $h*t. I thought we weren't going to have to smell it a second time.

[Kim]

Jay,

It will certainly temper the vulgarity we are used to seeing from Two-iron, Feinberg and all his aliases, and of course, kehvan (who seems to think this forum is now his.....what a creep.) :cry:

[cricket]

Robb....Let the posters set the pace. Take a look at http://www.americasdebate.com/forums/

[cricket]

Robb....Let the posters set the pace. Take a look at http://www.americasdebate.com/forums/ Now that forum is so over regulated, and moderated that it is boring. Not only that but the regular posters seem to be a bunch of pseudo-intellectuals.. The population is huge but that number is most deceiving when it comes to regulars.

[Whitey]

Please let us know what you think.

I voted for no "bad word" filter at all. Don't believe in "bad words." Most such filters are a joke. It's easy enough to write "futhermucker" & let the readers figure it out.

No big thing to me, one way or another; I seldom feel the need to use "bad" words to express my views. Thanks for asking. The new format's fine, though I'm more of a wordsmith than a crayon man.

An "ignore" function would be nice, but not really needed. 8)

[PED]

No, :wink: I don't believe filtering will have any impact. However, I have witnessed on too many occassions rude solicitation of some of the women on here that I personally find condescending, demeaning and uncalled for. The women do handle it well, perhaps it is they who should mention this since they are the targets.

That to me is the ultimate in bad taste on the forum.

[Mykel]

The ONLY time the moderator should EVER censor or delete a post or ban a poster is if they threaten another poster or the host with death.

An example of this would be the spammer from the late, great old Arianna Forum, who claimed he wanted to "Stick a broken bottle up Arianna's cu*t and f*ck her with it" or some other such horrifying, deadly threat.

Contrast that with some of my more heated, though ultimately harmless, assertions, such as "Death to the Right Wing," which isn't the same thing as saying "I want to kill all right wingers." It's their agenda I want to kill, not them.

I never threatened anyone directly or claimed I was ready to do it myself, even when I said I wished the children of the right wing would all catch AIDS and end their bloodline, being as their pregnancy rate and their parents' refusal to teach them safe sex was proof that they are well on the way to hanging themselves. I won't have anything to with it.

But I could see getting banned here based upon such assertions.

If it means anything, I always fought tooth and nail for the right of the loathsome Michael Feinberg to speak his mind, no matter how many of my fellow liberals went crying to the moderator or off to some gated forum. He never directly threatened anyone. He just pissed alot of us off. But that can be a good thing! He certainly got me off my high horse and got me debating like never before.

So, no, I don't wish for cuss words to be censored. What are we? Children?

Mykel

[Izzy]

While I'm not easily offended by bad words in themselves, the big issue I had on the last board were the really negative and nasty posts directed at someone because the person who's position was weakest usually couldn't formulate a coherent arguement and thus resorted to name calling. While I understand that it does make the person using the vulgarity look like the idiot he/she/it is, some of it was completely crass and needed to be erased and not taking up computer space.

Unfortunately, there is no good answer so I guess I'll just adopt the line of "I'll know a bad post that needs to be erased when I see it".

Izzy

[Jitoen Le Tur]

Can we call Busch names or label him stupid?

[Bluecoller-eddie]

.
Jitoen Le Tur
Can we call Busch names or label him stupid?
Or, more aptly, a murdering cocksucker. :twisted:


----------- IRAQ IS INNOCENT of 911---
-----bush $hit his pants on 911--
--Real men don't grovel to their corporate masters.--
Have they taught conan the republican how to use a fork yet ?? :roll:

-------------- bluecoller -- the grumpy old kraut ---- :evil:
.

[Adnan]

I really don't want to see "bad" words filtered. They let you know about the intellect of the poster. I am only interested in the elimination of spam, and I would also think it would be great if people were somehow made to post under the same name all the time, not changing from one to another at whim.

[Bert]

I agree with Esbe as to no filter being an invitation to abuse. I voted yes, but only two or three... I figure that if you have to be creative to use them (IE: sh!t, fu<k, etc), then you will use them only when they fit the post. But if not that, then I'd rather "go commando (no restrictions)"

Bert

[kehvan]

Over the last few days I have read, with much concern, that people feel that the new format may change the real value of this forum. One of the most often citations of this is the "bad word filter." Although it's not very long, and certainly doesn't try to be very strict, it has seemed to cause a bit of a stir.

Please let us know what you think. The poll will run for one week. This is not a vote on actually changing it, but rather an opportunity for the membership as a whole to express their thoughts on this issue. Help us understand what makes this fourm "work" and what you think can make it better.

Thank you,

Robb
If you're not going to filter the bad words, then you'll need to change the sub title...
Join Arianna and other guests in a lively, ongoing, and non-obscenity laced debate of the issues.

[cmath]

My gear was not down and locked when I voted to filter some bad words. May I take it back? :) I previously thought that certain words go over the line, especially since children can access this forum, but then decided it is up to Mom and/or Dad to keep them off of forums where the likes of bluecollar et al post their silly foul threats.

Whitey hit the nail on the head when he stated that filters are rather useless as everyone knows how to use futhermucker and fuckk, etc., to get around a filter.

OK, so fuckk didn't work, how about f*ck

[Bluecoller-eddie]

.
kehvan
If you're not going to filter the bad words, then you'll need to change the sub title...
The, nit- picking, sniveling, whining weasel continues to cry. :cry: Boo-Hoo

cmath
up to Mom and/or Dad to keep them off of forums where the likes of bluecollar et al post their silly foul threats.

How is calling a goddam filthy lying little cocksucker , "a goddam filthy lying little
cocksucker", a threat ?????? HUH :?: :?: It's quite simply the truth and the truth is only a threat to liars.
......................Quite simply, dont lie and you wont feel threatened.............................

Now, I'm not sure if your talking about me (bluecoller eddie) or (bluecollar, spelled correctly
with an A), but it doesn't matter because bluecollar and I are on the same wave-length.
We both despise liars.
We both despise cowards.
Whearas republicans are useually both liars and cowards, we therefore generally despise republicans.

Speaking for myself, if you lie, I will NOT be polite in response. Tough sh!t, wimp.

Welcome to the board. 8)


----------- IRAQ IS INNOCENT of 911---
-----bush $hit his pants on 911-- :twisted:
--Real men don't grovel to their corporate masters.--
Have they taught conan the republican how to use a fork yet ?? :roll:

-------------- bluecoller -- the grumpy old kraut ---- :evil:
.

[kehvan]

bluecoller -- the grumpy old kraut ---- :evil:
.
You're an evil, angry little man.

[Peter Angelo]

I think you should be able to screen out pure assaults on free speech by diliberate deletion of imbicles like the last one. It must be possible.

It is not allowable to deliberately yell "fire" in a movie theatre to cause harm. "It" was disingenuous, not at all legitimate, and does not deserve to be respected in any way. Banishment is appropriate sometimes.

[Reddew]

bump

[PassingThru]

I love that you bumped this Reddew, and that you voted in the poll.

http://www.ariannaonline.com/forums/images/smilies/cool.gif

[Reddew]

Thanks, 'course, I've no idea how often people check out the main AO forums page.. I do from time to time to see what's shakin' outside of Current Events.. but latest post in Suggestion Box at the time you referenced this thread was spam. So I figured a bump was defintely in order.

BTW, Thank YOU for calling attn to this thread and poll. I certainly wasn't here at the time and was more than happy to vote (not that this is a democracy or anything).

[girlwild]

In the current events description, it states that this is a non-obscenity laced forum. That was an attraction for me when I joined.