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Neurobürger
08-25-2007, 02:06 PM
(really cool flick i happened across at the local FRYS electronics store - rather long, but it's definitely worth a look!)


A Film by Peter Watkins


All of Peter Watkins films are events. When he tackles a historical moment of such magnitude as the Paris Commune of 1871, Watkins provokes, disturbs, jostles. The story, based on a thorough historical research, leads to an inevitable reflection about the present.

La Commune is the name given to the French revolutionary government established by the people of Paris during the Franco-Prussian War (1870-1871). On March 17 and 18, Parisians led an uprising against the national government, which fled the capital and re-established itself in Versailles. The radicals established a proletarian government in Paris, called the Central Committee of the National Guard, and set March 26 as the date for the election of a municipal council. This council became known as the Commune of 1871, and its members as Communards. Most Communards were followers of Louis Auguste Blanqui, a revolutionary held prisoner in Versailles by the head of the National Assembly, Adolphe Thiers. Other Communards supported the school of socialism expounded by the French philosopher Pierre Joseph Proudhon and members of the International Workingmen's Association, of which Karl Marx was then a corresponding secretary.

For the film LA COMMUNE we travel back in time to 1871. A journalist for Versailles Television broadcasts a soothing and official view of events while a Commune television is set up to provide the perspectives of the Paris rebels. On a stage-like set, more than 200 actors interpret characters of the Commune, especially the Popincourt neighborhood in the XIth arrondissement. They voice their own thoughts and feelings concerning the social and political reforms. The telling of this story rests primarily on depicting the people of the Commune, and those who suppressed them.

Deliberately, this film is an attempt to challenge existing notions of documentary film, as well as the notions of 'neutrality' and 'objectivity' so beloved by the mass media today. The film is not intended as an apologia on behalf of the Paris Commune. But at the same time, it attempts to show that the Paris Commune, for all its human frailty, its internal conflicts and its blundering, was an event of major importance, not least because of the way in which its leading reformers tried to work with social process, by a direct involvement with the community and its needs.

For Peter Watkins, to make a film is to question his own work as a filmmaker. LA COMMUNE represents an uncompromising challenge to modern media and a penetrating critique.

"An intellectually challenging and tremendously moving experience, as history replayed among its contemporary ruins. Watkins builds to the long and cataclysmic Bloody Week of street fighting... But, this impressive sequence notwithstanding, LA COMMUNE is meant to evoke the unfamiliar sensation of revolutionary euphoria, or living (and dying) in a sacred time."—J. Hoberman, Village Voice

"Stunning. Peter Watkins's approach to history is to make its representation coincide with reflection on it, to film, together with the re-enactment, the idea - what history means for us today. As you watch LA COMMUNE, it becomes impossible and senseless to distinguish between present and representation. The film becomes a lucid dream: history as reinvented by and for the living."—Boston Phoenix

"The energy, conviction and skill with which the players of LA COMMUNE perform is startling. So genuine is the force of their passion that at moments you feel they might be about to erupt and carry the revolt live into the auditorium..."—Peter Lennon, The Guardian

"A thought-provoking and moving tribute to the desire for a better world. The film's unconventional approach to history provides a unique and rewarding glimpse into a process of great interest to historians: that of collective, revolutionary action... The insight the film provides into the process of social change invites reflection both on the state of the world today and on the process of historical change on part of the viewer... A valuable teaching tool."—H-France Reviews

"Invigorating... big, passionate and brimming with compelling human details and broad sociopolitical idealism... LA COMMUNE is powerful, heady stuff."—Variety

mrpuma
08-26-2007, 05:34 PM
Good stuff Neuro, sadly most of the mass media hypnotized philistines here will not partake of this, no cars blown up, or chop-saki fight choreography aplenty here.

Macman
08-26-2007, 05:38 PM
Good stuff Neuro, sadly most of the mass media hypnotized philistines here will not partake of this, no cars blown up, or chop-saki fight choreography aplenty here.

And frankly, just plain not interested in the beginings of communism.

mrpuma
08-26-2007, 05:39 PM
Sun-tzu said "Know your enemy" mac

Macman
08-26-2007, 05:48 PM
Sun-tzu said "Know your enemy" mac

And we have met them and they are ours.

Cut the head off of the lead communist and the whole house of cards caves in.

Neurobürger
08-26-2007, 08:30 PM
And frankly, just plain not interested in the beginings of communism.

mac reminds one of the vengeful and fearful bourgeois women folk who spat upon and poked at the corpses of the communards, all the while mouthing pious banalities about "law and order"

:rolleyes:


at 345 minutes' length, it's a fairly large chunk of film to digest and certainly difficult over one sitting.



La Carmagnole
I

Madame Veto avait promis,
Madame Veto avait promis.
de faire égorger tout Paris,
de faire égorger tout Paris.
Mais son coup a manqué,
grâce Ã* nos canoiners.

Refrain:

Dansons la Carmagnole
Vive le son,
Vive le son,
Dansons la Carmagnole
Vive le son du canon.

II

Monsieur Veto avait promis (bis)
D'être fidèle Ã* son pays, (bis)
Mais il y a manqué,
Ne faisons plus quartié.

Refrain

III

Antoinette avait résolu (bis)
De nous faire tomber sur le cul; (bis)
Mais le coup a manqué
Elle a le nez cassé.

Refrain

IV

Son Mari se croyant vainqueur, (bis)
Connaissait peu notre valeur, (bis)
Va, Louis, gros paour,
Du Temple dans la tour.

Refrain

V

Les Suisses avaient promis, (bis)
Qu'ils feraient feu sur nos amis, (bis)
Mais comme ils ont saute!
Comme ils ont tous danse!

Refrain

VI

Quand Antoinette vit la tour, (bis)
Elle voulut faire demi-tour, (bis)
Elle avait mal au coeur
De se voir sans honneur.

Refrain

Refrain

Refrain

:D

TooDarkPark
08-27-2007, 10:26 AM
Bah, where's the link to vid.
Guess I will have to keep my eye out at video store.
The Paris commune and Spanish Civil War are very interesting (and mostly successful) experiments squashed by the bourgeoisie.
Viva CNT, the Revolucion and Anarcho-syndicalism (http://youtube.com/watch?v=ElohIb2fh2E)
POUM commies and the fascists can kiss my ass.

Neurobürger
08-27-2007, 10:31 AM
Bah, where's the link to vid.
Guess I will have to keep my eye out at video store.
The Paris commune and Spanish Civil War are very interesting (and mostly successful) experiments squashed by the bourgeoisie.
Viva CNT, the Revolucion and Anarcho-syndicalism
POUM commies and the fascists can kiss my ass.

the poum was smashed by the stalinists

they were not 'fascists' that was the stalinist line which had to proclaim them as such in order to justify suppressing them. the poum militia had been on the front lines northwest of barcelona since the beginning

i happened across this amazing movie at a local store. libraries might be the best bet to find it. it is definitely worth a look, especially for anyone interested in th is particular bit of history which has been pretty successfully swept under the rug of forgetfulness by the boozhies

Neurobürger
08-27-2007, 10:35 AM
http://www.mnsi.net/~pwatkins/commune.htm


(*the filmmakers' site)

TooDarkPark
08-27-2007, 10:44 AM
Oops, did I say POUM...
*should not write about history when just waking up.

Anyhow, Stalinist provocateurs can kiss my ass is what I meant.

Will check out link, thanks.

dannavy85
08-27-2007, 11:09 AM
Yeah, who wants to read about a doomed political theology spun by a drunk.

Neurobürger
08-27-2007, 11:13 AM
Yeah, who wants to read about a doomed political theology spun by a drunk.

instead of the pot-smoking "foundling father" G Washington?


bwahahahahahaha:D