Raynold's obsession

[liakopoulos]

I would like to answer all mr Raynold's questions on behalf of HALVA, but first I would like to understand his unger and fury against him. Why is mr Raynolds so concerned about those who trace the chemtrails issue? It is defenately certain that he has a lot of free time to spend in front of his keyboard or certain interests to protect. So ,dear mr Raynolds give us your degree of education so that I can use the appropriate terminology for you to comprehend everything.

[gaiacomm]

I would like to answer all mr Raynold's questions on behalf of HALVA, but first I would like to understand his unger and fury against him. Why is mr Raynolds so concerned about those who trace the chemtrails issue? It is defenately certain that he has a lot of free time to spend in front of his keyboard or certain interests to protect. So ,dear mr Raynolds give us your degree of education so that I can use the appropriate terminology for you to comprehend everything.


Go get him! He may not come to you!

[airtankerpilot]

Why are you people so obsessed with airplanes and contrails? Why are you people so paranoid, to the point of thinking there is some global chemical spraying conspiracy, when there is ZERO EVIDENCE of it.

If all you can do is claim your opponents are government agents, debunkers, obsessed, you are trying to shift debate from your lack of evidence in your little chemtrail religion, and instead trying to impugn the character of someone who opposed you.

Your chemtrail religious beliefs should stand on its own evidence. Which of course it does not, as admitted to in the other thread, multiiple times by your own side.

Admissions of zero evidence, yet for years now, them chemtrail cult members continue on with their mantra of secret planes, spraying secret chemicals all around the world.

And you claim others are obsessed?

[gaiacomm]

One last entry:

All of you have very important points and they all make sense.
The problem is that none of you has the authority or command to suggest and influence the individuals that have masterminded the Middle East war or any other conflict.
America is very guilty of miss-leading the public at large and others within certain offices to the real reasons why these invasions must take place. It is not religion but control of natural resources and its people to accept democratic policies to absorb and pillage the land and its people for complete control of all to satisfy some revelation that these few should be the masters of the earth and enjoy its fruit.

The Paradigm must rest with us to change these systems of governments and spread the wealth. These people did not appear from some divine intervention but were reared in the same environment as we with one exception they formed an alliance long ago and convinced us with false truths that they would lead us all into freedom and peace. Well now, look around you and see what few bones they have cast down in our pits.

Our own fears and ignorance is what these people rely on and our addictive behaviors to comforts that they place in front of us to grow accustomed to, to the point that we cannot part with them. At that point, it is then used as a tool to corner and control our thoughts and movements. The simple freedoms we have are a small piece to what really is out there for us.

We have only ourselves to blame if we are dissatisfied with the geopolitical politics that plays out each day for our entertainment. The military is controlled by false promise and meager wages. The politians that create wars never are first in line to fight along side with others. Did Bush stand with his troops on the front line and yell charge? Did Tony Blair?

Loss of life for someone else’s gain is not right and should be dealt with by the people affected. We know that Saddam was a mass murderer but the USA helped him into power. Now the USA helped him out of power. In addition, we all sit and throw stones because we feel it is right and we fear of standing up in the crowd and demanding a recall.

We accept that the USA and others hold truth to protect whom? The guilty?
Does anyone really wish to see all of us live together and exchange ideas?

A clear indication that the USA started off on the wrong foot when in its Declaration of Independence it stated that all Men are created equal…. When it should have read all Men and Women are created equal.

We are all intelligent and understand that women are equal to us.

They are HUMAN BEINGS! As for differences, well that is what we all iron out thru discussions and open debate to setup a system that allows for freedom of expression without the fear of reprisal and ridicule. The Planet is not prejudice and provides everything we need to improve ourselves and live free. Every tool, machine, food, weapon, technology, everything we touch came from the earth and was reshaped to our will. We do not have to live as we do, the laws of Physics and Science do not define these rules we live by. We can easily change them with our will! Our brains have the ability to do anything we choose. The computers and internet was formed inside someone’s brain then they went to gather the parts from the earth to make what we see and feel each day.

It is not a religion that controls us but ourselves allowing others to control. If we combine, our intellects together we can accomplish much, but we must all change ourselves from within first then we can proceed. It does not take centuries to change if we all are willing to sacrifice some to gain more lately.

The Media controls us and we accept that because we feel that we can do nothing but talk amongst ourselves and hope that it will get better. Well it will not as long as you all sit on your hands and wait for the other person to take the risk.
We all can debate and write essays all day but outside there are wars, death, poor, sick, uneducated, murder, rape, lies, enslavement, and so many other controls that we have learned to accept by being enabled by our leaders and peers that we put so much faith into.
We can replace and redirect the world events if we work together and demonstrate that we are tired of being tired and as the famous quote from the movie Network, “I am as mad as hell and I am not going to take it anymore

One last thought, if the French had not assisted the USA during the separation from England what would it be like now? If the Black Slaves who numbered 200,000 had not joined, the Union Army would the Civil War’s outcome been different.

Think about it!

Dr. Judah Ben-Hur

[halva]

Well it seems that here too I must reject your stance of mediator and referee. There is no point having the same message on all these threads.

[gaiacomm]

Well it seems that here too I must reject your stance of mediator and referee. There is no point having the same message on all these threads.

Halva:

No need to worry. Well some people may wish to check other threads.

I am not the mediator or referee, just one voice with an opinion!

[whitemajikman]

I am not the mediator or referee, just one voice with an opinion!

How many Hours a day do you spend concocting this drivel that you pass off as your own thought's.

In fact it seems to me that you are like a telemarketer who reads off of cue cards.

it is all regurgitated well thought out prose.......that begs of a certain reaction from the reader.

you are to predictable.

So instead of admitting your ignorance of science or philosophy you cut and paste your pre-arranged thoughts so as to fool the reader into thinking your something that you are obviously not.

By the way you were debunked a long time ago ......so why even try and keep playing your role....?

Two words for you........Obsessive........and .....compulsive.

I hope my point is clear,so you don't have to spend the next 12 hours thinking up another cut and paste response.........

[gaiacomm]

The time has come for you to focus on your life and what you can do to make it better!

[whitemajikman]

The time has come for you to focus on your life and what you can do to make it better!

NO....MY LIFE IS A LIFE THAT I WORKED HARD FOR........IN FACT IT IS AN EASY LAID BACK EXISTENCE DUE TO ALL OF MY HARD WORK ,BLOOD,SWEAT,AND TEARS OF THE PAST.

The time has come for you to come clean.........unless you want me to knock on your door the next time I'm in florida and wake you up at 5:00am
with digital camera in hand.

Then of course I would Post the results of my finding's.

Actually I have many friends who would probably take the photos for me who currently live with-in a few hours drive of your location.

Almost all of them are military.

So SHALL we see if you are the BLUFFER I know you to be or Shall we see how truthful your admissions really are....?

or you could just go to Maverick's site and check your very own Debunktion.

HEY.........I hope you drink coffee Because at 5:00am I can pretty ornery.......lol

[gaiacomm]

The time has come for you to focus on your life and what you can do to make it better!

NO....MY LIFE IS A LIFE THAT I WORKED HARD FOR........IN FACT IT IS AN EASY LAID BACK EXISTENCE DUE TO ALL OF MY HARD WORK ,BLOOD,SWEAT,AND TEARS OF THE PAST.

The time has come for you to come clean.........unless you want me to knock on your door the next time I'm in florida and wake you up at 5:00am
with digital camera in hand.

Then of course I would Post the results of my finding's.

Actually I have many friends who would probably take the photos for me who currently live with-in a few hours drive of your location.

Almost all of them are military.

So SHALL we see if you are the BLUFFER I know you to be or Shall we see how truthful your admissions really are....?

or you could just go to Maverick's site and check your very own Debunktion.

HEY.........I hope you drink coffee Because at 5:00am I can pretty ornery.......lol




I will be waiting! Plus I know you do not have the "balls" to do anything of substance except to go to the toilet!

[halva]

Gaiacomm I can't understand how you are getting involved in all this garbage again when you have the chance to intervene in the real world.

The more you appear here on this forum the less status you have elsewhere.

Because of your persistence in this habit, I am not willing to meet you personally.

You can talk to Liakopoulos and see if he is interested in discussing practical activism with you.

It is unwise to have people like whitemajikman able to think they are as good as you, or better.

[whitemajikman]

I will be waiting! Plus I know you do not have the "balls" to do anything of substance except to go to the toilet!

You see lance ......what you are now up against isn't a hallucination or a deception,that you are famous for trying to propagate.

It is in fact reality,and your future reality is to be outed for the third rate deceiver you are.

Which will only lead to yourself realizing exactly what you are because quite frankly the rest of us .....even Halva already knows.



Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 10:39 pm Post subject: It's not nice to fool with Mother Nature

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Gaiacomm I can't understand how you are getting involved in all this garbage again when you have the chance to intervene in the real world.

The more you appear here on this forum the less status you have elsewhere.

Because of your persistence in this habit, I am not willing to meet you personally.

You can talk to Liakopoulos and see if he is interested in discussing practical activism with you.

It is unwise to have people like whitemajikman able to think they are as good as you, or better.


And Halva You are transparent because you can't seem to keep your mouth shut or your freudian slips in check.


Is it not obvious to the rest of the people who read this that you are treating this all like some big chess game and do not give one iota about the environment or about facts logic and reasoning.....?

Instead he is trying to manufacture his own deception by decieving people into believing Lance/Judah is reputable.

And then chastizes Lance/Judah for losing his short temper there by making him useless to Halva's Scheme.

You gotta love the way this little Hitler operates.



[/quote]It is unwise to have people like whitemajikman able to think they are as good as you, or better.


Hey.....Halva.

It may be unwise .......But the truth is I'm wayyyyyyyyy better then him and more importantly you.

And your next Little Hitler.

You have had enough time to come to terms with your own dark heart.

Now it is time to unmask you wayne ........

Cause your next...........


And why is it I can smell your fear already......?

[gaiacomm]

I will be waiting! Plus I know you do not have the "balls" to do anything of substance except to go to the toilet!

You see lance ......what you are now up against isn't a hallucination or a deception,that you are famous for trying to propagate.

It is in fact reality,and your future reality is to be outed for the third rate deceiver you are.

Which will only lead to yourself realizing exactly what you are because quite frankly the rest of us .....even Halva already knows.



Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2004 10:39 pm Post subject: It's not nice to fool with Mother Nature

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Gaiacomm I can't understand how you are getting involved in all this garbage again when you have the chance to intervene in the real world.

The more you appear here on this forum the less status you have elsewhere.

Because of your persistence in this habit, I am not willing to meet you personally.

You can talk to Liakopoulos and see if he is interested in discussing practical activism with you.

It is unwise to have people like whitemajikman able to think they are as good as you, or better.


And Halva You are transparent because you can't seem to keep your mouth shut or your freudian slips in check.


Is it not obvious to the rest of the people who read this that you are treating this all like some big chess game and do not give one iota about the environment or about facts logic and reasoning.....?

Instead he is trying to manufacture his own deception by decieving people into believing Lance/Judah is reputable.

And then chastizes Lance/Judah for losing his short temper there by making him useless to Halva's Scheme.

You gotta love the way this little Hitler operates.



It is unwise to have people like whitemajikman able to think they are as good as you, or better.


Hey.....Halva.

It may be unwise .......But the truth is I'm wayyyyyyyyy better then him and more importantly you.

And your next Little Hitler.

You have had enough time to come to terms with your own dark heart.

Now it is time to unmask you wayne ........

Cause your next...........


And why is it I can smell your fear already......?[/quote]




I hope you have a strong firewall!

[whitemajikman]

WELL LANCE IF YOU MUST KNOW ,INCLUDING THIS COMPUTER I OWN 9 IN TOTAL.

ALL HAVE FIREWALLS AND ALL HAVE BEEN BEEFED UP.

EVEN IF YOU WERE SUCCESSFUL IN HACKING ME,IT WOULD NOT MAKE ONE OUNCE OF DIFFERENCE .

YOU SEE LANCE I DO NOT FEAR BEING HACKED.

CPU'S ARE A DIME A DOZEN.

SO ENJOY YOUR USELESS WASTE OF TIME.

BUT WHAT YOU SHOULD BE FEARING IS THAT WHO EVER DOES HACK ME ,I WILL BE THE RECIPIENT OF MORE INFORMATION THEN THE ATTACKERS .


YOU SHOULD BE THINKING OF THE SIGNIFICANCE OF MY ABOVE STATEMENTS.

AND THINK UP A BETTER STRATEGY OF LIES.

[gaiacomm]

you have been debunked!

[DuncanKunz]

Liakopoulos, tikanis!

I understand that you are a physics teacher in Hellas.

I am sure that you know the behavior of gases and that at an altitude of 8000 - 10000 meters, ice crystals will sublime at temperatures are above minus forty degrees and less than saturated humidity conditions. I am sure that you are also aware, with your knowledge of enthalpy, that if the temperature is below minus 40 degrees and the atmosphere is saturated, then the ice crystals will not sublime and the resulting contrails can last for hours and hours.

Given that many people incorrectly believe that ice crystal contrails must sublime after a minute or so, why don't you correct them on this? They are not knowledgeable of physics like you are, but I am sure they would listen to you, given your credibility.