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Islanders_for_the_cup_04
03-06-2007, 07:55 PM
Doc Mercer starts waaaayyyy tooooo maaaaaannnnny threads.

I'm not requesting a banning or anything but could someone maybe take him aside and tell him to chill out. I think many other posters have tryed dealing with him on the issue one on one to no avail.

Is it possible a mod or maybe someone he likes could intervene?

Thanks bunches!!!!

Tim
03-07-2007, 05:50 AM
At the time I post this, Doc Mercer has 7 threads going on the first page. Very similar to what kentay used to do.

The difference seems to be that every article that kentay read ended up as a cut and paste thread. With Doc Mercer, apparently every thought running through his mind becomes a thread.

Perhaps our Sam the bartender mod could take action. If we say we "feel" threatened by Doc perhaps she'll do something.

Tayken
03-07-2007, 08:19 AM
At the time I post this, Doc Mercer has 7 threads going on the first page. Very similar to what kentay used to do.

The difference seems to be that every article that kentay read ended up as a cut and paste thread. With Doc Mercer, apparently every thought running through his mind becomes a thread.

Perhaps our Sam the bartender mod could take action. If we say we "feel" threatened by Doc perhaps she'll do something.

Nah. She loves the Doc. She loves what the board has become.

A Voice
03-07-2007, 08:34 AM
Doc Mercer starts waaaayyyy tooooo maaaaaannnnny threads.

I'm not requesting a banning or anything but could someone maybe take him aside and tell him to chill out. I think many other posters have tryed dealing with him on the issue one on one to no avail.

Is it possible a mod or maybe someone he likes could intervene?

Thanks bunches!!!!

We are aware of the situation and have been trying to deal with doc for a while.

We are in the process of tightening up the guidelines regarding spamming the board.

As to you other two. First I over moderate - then undermoderate. You are never happy and never will be. Before you go off how I am defending a "liberal" - doc frequently uses a pejorative that I loath.

A Voice

Islanders_for_the_cup_04
03-07-2007, 10:03 AM
We are aware of the situation and have been trying to deal with doc for a while.

We are in the process of tightening up the guidelines regarding spamming the board.

As to you other two. First I over moderate - then undermoderate. You are never happy and never will be. Before you go off how I am defending a "liberal" - doc frequently uses a pejorative that I loath.

A Voice


You're right on one point; You're damned if you do and damned if you don't. Personally I don't see Doc as a leftist. He's more in the mold of a right wing whackjob. I guess because he doesn't like the Bush administration that makes him a Liberal.

I don't think we need a hard and fast rule on the subject. It might be better to find posters that have an open line of communication with him. He needs to be introduced into the community a little better and that there is are certain guidelines of respect that we traditionally have observed. In other words, there are some rules that are unwritten and agreed upon without spelling them out.

The worst case scenerio is that his continued spamming doesn't generate any responses and he either learns to comply with the communities wishes, gets bored and moves on.

Tayken
03-07-2007, 11:34 AM
LOL. Doc bashes Republicans and conservatives in every given way, and gives defense of all liberals, and Islander says he is in the mold of a right wing whack job? LOL. Liberals never cease to amaze me with their stupid remarks and back stabbing tactics.

Kuni
03-07-2007, 12:01 PM
LOL. Doc bashes Republicans and conservatives in every given way, and gives defense of all liberals, and Islander says he is in the mold of a right wing whack job? LOL. Liberals never cease to amaze me with their stupid remarks and back stabbing tactics.Bullshit; Doc bashed Liberals, Democrats and the Truth with his insane 9-11 claims.

He cuts and runs from the fact surrounding the 757 that hit the Pentagon like Wingnuts run from the facts regarding both Bush and Clinton. The BS regarding Bush’s claim about Saddam/al-Qaeda links, the lie about Iraq trying to get uranium from Niger after 1991, the lie about the real surpluses Clinton ran and the lie that the Sudan offered bin Laden come to mind as quick examples as some of the facts that Wingnuts run from on those two.

Tayken
03-07-2007, 12:25 PM
Bullshit; Doc bashed Liberals, Democrats and the Truth with his insane 9-11 claims.

He cuts and runs from the fact surrounding the 757 that hit the Pentagon like Wingnuts run from the facts regarding both Bush and Clinton. The BS regarding Bush’s claim about Saddam/al-Qaeda links, the lie about Iraq trying to get uranium from Niger after 1991, the lie about the real surpluses Clinton ran and the lie that the Sudan offered bin Laden come to mind as quick examples as some of the facts that Wingnuts run from on those two.

I think more liberals on this board are CT'ers than conservatives. While I don't consider Bubba a liberal, I don't consider him a conservative either. I don't know of any other conservatives who buy into this crap, whereas you got a huge handfull of liberals (NOT ALL) who do buy into it. Doc is truly a liberal. Islander is either too stupid (probably) or too disingenuous to admit that.

JackTheReaper
03-07-2007, 12:36 PM
there is are certain guidelines of respect that we traditionally have observed
Islanders, I've never known you to kid us before like this.

To single out doc mercer as having no respect for posters in this forum neglects the fact that what I see - MOST - is a lack of respect from DBS's very own extreme rabid right wingers here. I just got done replying 4-5 times, civilly, to hardcorps's vicious and foul mouthed disrespectful hate posts directed at me, for instance, sev. mins. ago.

His kind shows NO RESPECT to me, to you, to the moderators themselves. Some of his friends have threatened to "shoot in the head" some of the posters here they dislike. mercer doesn't speak that way, threatening to kill our fellow posters. For these misfit criminally inclined type of BushGOP, DBS respect and tradition have no value.

I think you are remiss to speak of doc mercer as a problem and completely waste no breath on the real culprits on the extreme right who trash and belittle and bring this website down to their gutter levels when in fact it was a very pleasant website before they chose us to - pardon me - shit on all of us here.

Please reconsider my good friend. Spamming might be a legitimate problem. But I can remember the AO-Kentay era when Tayken spammed on an equal basis with kentay. Trouble is, kentay had pasted material of thoughtful import. I recall Tayken's being nothing more than posts of vicious partisanism and hateful attack.

Otherwise, I'm with you all the way on attitudes of respect. I fought the BushGOP's hate speech fire with my own fire the other evening in order for them to get a taste of what they dish out to us. They must not have liked it well as I have seen nothing from JoJo or dannavy85 (and precious little from cmath) since then. But reason and civility (of course, rightfully excluding Bush from those parameters) are my own preferences. And I agree you also have always been respectful in anything I've ever read of yours.:)

Tayken
03-07-2007, 01:05 PM
Islanders, I've never known you to kid us before like this.

To single out doc mercer as having no respect for posters in this forum neglects the fact that what I see - MOST - is a lack of respect from DBS's very own extreme rabid right wingers here. I just got done replying 4-5 times, civilly, to hardcorps's vicious and foul mouthed disrespectful hate posts directed at me, for instance, sev. mins. ago.

His kind shows NO RESPECT to me, to you, to the moderators themselves. Some of his friends have threatened to "shoot in the head" some of the posters here they dislike. mercer doesn't speak that way, threatening to kill our fellow posters. For these misfit criminally inclined type of BushGOP, DBS respect and tradition have no value.

I think you are remiss to speak of doc mercer as a problem and completely waste no breath on the real culprits on the extreme right who trash and belittle and bring this website down to their gutter levels when in fact it was a very pleasant website before they chose us to - pardon me - shit on all of us here.

Please reconsider my good friend. Spamming might be a legitimate problem. But I can remember the AO-Kentay era when Tayken spammed on an equal basis with kentay. Trouble is, kentay had pasted material of thoughtful import. I recall Tayken's being nothing more than posts of vicious partisanism and hateful attack.

Otherwise, I'm with you all the way on attitudes of respect. I fought the BushGOP's hate speech fire with my own fire the other evening in order for them to get a taste of what they dish out to us. They must not have liked it well as I have seen nothing from JoJo or dannavy85 (and precious little from cmath) since then. But reason and civility (of course, rightfully excluding Bush from those parameters) are my own preferences. And I agree you also have always been respectful in anything I've ever read of yours.:)


I spammed? I hardly start any threads. That is an outright lie, and I think you know that Jack.

Islanders_for_the_cup_04
03-07-2007, 02:10 PM
Islanders, I've never known you to kid us before like this.

To single out doc mercer as having no respect for posters in this forum neglects the fact that what I see - MOST - is a lack of respect from DBS's very own extreme rabid right wingers here. I just got done replying 4-5 times, civilly, to hardcorps's vicious and foul mouthed disrespectful hate posts directed at me, for instance, sev. mins. ago.

His kind shows NO RESPECT to me, to you, to the moderators themselves. Some of his friends have threatened to "shoot in the head" some of the posters here they dislike. mercer doesn't speak that way, threatening to kill our fellow posters. For these misfit criminally inclined type of BushGOP, DBS respect and tradition have no value.

I think you are remiss to speak of doc mercer as a problem and completely waste no breath on the real culprits on the extreme right who trash and belittle and bring this website down to their gutter levels when in fact it was a very pleasant website before they chose us to - pardon me - shit on all of us here.

Please reconsider my good friend. Spamming might be a legitimate problem. But I can remember the AO-Kentay era when Tayken spammed on an equal basis with kentay. Trouble is, kentay had pasted material of thoughtful import. I recall Tayken's being nothing more than posts of vicious partisanism and hateful attack.

Otherwise, I'm with you all the way on attitudes of respect. I fought the BushGOP's hate speech fire with my own fire the other evening in order for them to get a taste of what they dish out to us. They must not have liked it well as I have seen nothing from JoJo or dannavy85 (and precious little from cmath) since then. But reason and civility (of course, rightfully excluding Bush from those parameters) are my own preferences. And I agree you also have always been respectful in anything I've ever read of yours.:)

I'm not always respectful to everyone. I have my guidelines for what is respectful and what isn't but I'm not perfect.

I don't really care about people threatening to shoot me on an anonymous message board. I might have a different opinion if the motherfucker claimed to have my personal info (Which most people here have my address and many know my name) and used that along with the thread.

THere is a difference between respecting the person and respecting the posts. For all the shit that has gotten tossed here we've never had the egocentric posters the likes of Doc Mercer and Bubba in all my time posting here. Bubba seems to have calmed as of late.

Doc Mercer spams this board like no tomorrow. You're not batteling any injustice or political ideology by simply posting on a message board. We come here to have a discussion and a entertaining exchange of put downs. What is offensive to one is not to another. That's a matter of taste. On this board I often take a lot more than I give.

Kentay can be talked down from going nutz with the threads. It's been done here and on Hypercrites. The same can be said of Woody.

I'm sure the same can be said of Tayken as there have been posters from the other side of the aisle that's asked him to get rid of a sig that was visually iritating. I've never witnessed him go on a spam fest.

Doc Mercer every once in a while will post something that I agree with but he's really gone overboard from the minute he joined. It has to stop. There used to be some really good posters who's take the time to construct threads with their own thoughts and ideas.

Those guys aren't doing that as Mercer and his endless barage of threads bounces it off the front page in less than 2 hours.

He's not fighting the right. He's bouncing out everyone else from all sides of the aisle out the door. As a matter of fact, he is a righty himself. He's down with that ridiculous anti semitic 9/11 theories and bashes gays on here on daily basis.

He's a conservative Democrat.

Islanders_for_the_cup_04
03-07-2007, 02:17 PM
I think more liberals on this board are CT'ers than conservatives. While I don't consider Bubba a liberal, I don't consider him a conservative either. I don't know of any other conservatives who buy into this crap, whereas you got a huge handfull of liberals (NOT ALL) who do buy into it. Doc is truly a liberal. Islander is either too stupid (probably) or too disingenuous to admit that.

Doc Mercer is a righty as is WMM, Boomer, Clara and Gerry. Same goes for Esbe as well.

These fuckers like to pretend to speak in liberal sounding themes but they are all right wing nutters. That 9/11 conspiracy theory is rooted in right wing scapegoating.

The same goes for the folks who parade that minuteman crap. I posted a thread here called "Roght Woos left" and how all this crap is rooted in right wing paranoia and scapegoating. The right has been working overtime trying to recuit leftists into their ridiculous causes.

I also posted a thread on Hypercrites of a discussion from another board where these nutters were talking about speaking in "liberal themes" in order to woo the left. One of them claimed that Boomer was the wave of the future in regards to this brand of online campaigning.

Looking at the idols of left wing causes these idiots sound nothing like the Sojourner Truths, Howard Zinns, E V Debs and MLKs of their day.

Tayken
03-07-2007, 02:36 PM
Doc Mercer is a righty as is WMM, Boomer, Clara and Gerry. Same goes for Esbe as well.

These fuckers like to pretend to speak in liberal sounding themes but they are all right wing nutters. That 9/11 conspiracy theory is rooted in right wing scapegoating.

The same goes for the folks who parade that minuteman crap. I posted a thread here called "Roght Woos left" and how all this crap is rooted in right wing paranoia and scapegoating. The right has been working overtime trying to recuit leftists into their ridiculous causes.

I also posted a thread on Hypercrites of a discussion from another board where these nutters were talking about speaking in "liberal themes" in order to woo the left. One of them claimed that Boomer was the wave of the future in regards to this brand of online campaigning.

Looking at the idols of left wing causes these idiots sound nothing like the Sojourner Truths, Howard Zinns, E V Debs and MLKs of their day.

Bullshit. And you know it. He is one of you Islander. He is a lefty. You now are showing us you really aren't very honest. Most conservatives don't buy into the 9/11 crap whereas a good percentage of the liberals do.

JackTheReaper
03-07-2007, 04:36 PM
He's a conservative Democrat.
Just being here as often as I can, I actually have learned something about myself. I also am a conservative with a liberal heart.

I am against gun control, I am for the death penalty, I dislike Democrats who speak one way, then act like dumb*asses after they get power. I prefer rules and their strict enforcement. I detest crime and lawbreakers; I AM for law and order. I dislike these days our "Democrats" very much. They're on the same level with Bush Republicans. Both groups traitors to American decency and moral wholesomeness.

But I def. am against oppression, of ALL minorities. We are today a majority composed of minorities. For intolerant elitists, christians, BushGOP, that sort, to keep any PERSON of American citizenry from their God given rights at birth, guaranteed by the US Constitution, because they are not rich WASPs, sickens me. Makes my blood rage.

Also, death threats bother me too. Honesty, truly, my stomach actually flip flops when I hear disgusting material such as this. For the mere physical sick feelings I get, compounded with my moral outrage and apallment, I prefer NOT to EVER hear such. And I am glad death threat/shoot to kill speech is banned here.

But if spamming bothers you, then I understand and do not fault you now.

cephalagic
03-07-2007, 05:55 PM
Just being here as often as I can, I actually have learned something about myself. I also am a conservative with a liberal heart.

I am against gun control, I am for the death penalty, I dislike Democrats who speak one way, then act like dumb*asses after they get power. I prefer rules and their strict enforcement. I detest crime and lawbreakers; I AM for law and order. I dislike these days our "Democrats" very much. They're on the same level with Bush Republicans. Both groups traitors to American decency and moral wholesomeness.

But I def. am against oppression, of ALL minorities. We are today a majority composed of minorities. For intolerant elitists, christians, BushGOP, that sort, to keep any PERSON of American citizenry from their God given rights at birth, guaranteed by the US Constitution, because they are not rich WASPs, sickens me. Makes my blood rage.

Also, death threats bother me too. Honesty, truly, my stomach actually flip flops when I hear disgusting material such as this. For the mere physical sick feelings I get, compounded with my moral outrage and apallment, I prefer NOT to EVER hear such. And I am glad death threat/shoot to kill speech is banned here.

But if spamming bothers you, then I understand and do not fault you now.

JTR, though we quite often disagree on the subject matter being discussed, you are nevertheless civil about it - if my memory serves. I wish I could say the same of all posters here. But I will now confess that your avatar CREEPS ME THE FUCK OUT! Why did you have to choose that particular one? A fat man taking a shit would have been a better sight than "The Reaper" winking at me. Aren't you getting tired of it now? Wouldn't you like to try something else? Damn thing gives me the chills!

JackTheReaper
03-07-2007, 06:05 PM
JTR, though we quite often disagree on the subject matter being discussed, you are nevertheless civil about it - if my memory serves. I wish I could say the same of all posters here. But I will now confess that your avatar CREEPS ME THE FUCK OUT! Why did you have to choose that particular one? A fat man taking a shit would have been a better sight than "The Reaper" winking at me. Aren't you getting tired of it now? Wouldn't you like to try something else? Damn thing gives me the chills!
LOL! Sadly, I don't have any pix of fat men shitting at my disposal currently. However, if I find one suitable..........:D

But, then, changing the avatar would require a change of name. Gruesome as it sounds, JackTheReaper was pure imagination. Sounded forceful and strong in nature. Someone not to mess with. All for naught, of course, given my track record here. Consider, at least it winks! Ripper at heart (of hearts?), an unfriendlier Reaper would glare. This one thinks you're CUTE!:) At least, that's a better thought than a creeped out feeling.

Kuni
03-08-2007, 08:31 PM
I think more liberals on this board are CT'ers than conservatives.Is that so?

What do you call all the CT’ers on the Right that went apeshit over the 9-11 Commission Report, (or as some who claim to be on the Left call it the “Official Report”), when it found that the Sudan didn’t offer bin Laden to Clinton and tried using the ‘Able Danger’ BS to discredit the Report? I think the Question is who on the Right here didn’t fall for that CT. At least many on the ‘Left’ here aren’t falling for the CT that the 9-11 Commission got it wrong and that the WTC was brought down by explosives.

Bullshit that the CT’ers are mostly on the Left. I bet that every Wingnut in the World believed, and most still do, that the Sudan offered bin Laden to Clinton. And I would not be surprised if many still clung to the ‘Able Danger’ BS.


And while the Left has it’s share of CT’ers; at least the majority of them are only hung up on 9-11. The CT’ers on the Right are all over the map and fell/are falling, for a shitload of CT’s.

Let’s not forget the CT’ers on the Right who think the Duelfer Report lied and that Iraq was still trying to get uranium from Niger after 1991. Or that the WMD’s got moved to Syria. Or that Saddam had links/ties to al-Qaeda; that last CT was soundly smacked down by the Senate Intelligence Committee last fall.

Then there is the CT that somehow Valerie wasn’t covert; but the CIA wrote the Justice Department demanding an investigation because: (Insert favorite Wingnut CT on that one here.)

Tayken
03-08-2007, 08:50 PM
Is that so?

What do you call all the CT’ers on the Right that went apeshit over the 9-11 Commission Report, (or as some who claim to be on the Left call it the “Official Report”), when it found that the Sudan didn’t offer bin Laden to Clinton and tried using the ‘Able Danger’ BS to discredit the Report? I think the Question is who on the Right here didn’t fall for that CT. At least many on the ‘Left’ here aren’t falling for the CT that the 9-11 Commission got it wrong and that the WTC was brought down by explosives.

Bullshit that the CT’ers are mostly on the Left. I bet that every Wingnut in the World believed, and most still do, that the Sudan offered bin Laden to Clinton. And I would not be surprised if many still clung to the ‘Able Danger’ BS.


And while the Left has it’s share of CT’ers; at least the majority of them are only hung up on 9-11. The CT’ers on the Right are all over the map and fell/are falling, for a shitload of CT’s.

Let’s not forget the CT’ers on the Right who think the Duelfer Report lied and that Iraq was still trying to get uranium from Niger after 1991. Or that the WMD’s got moved to Syria. Or that Saddam had links/ties to al-Qaeda; that last CT was soundly smacked down by the Senate Intelligence Committee last fall.

Then there is the CT that somehow Valerie wasn’t covert; but the CIA wrote the Justice Department demanding an investigation because: (Insert favorite Wingnut CT on that one here.)

AS USUAL YOU NEVER READ. I said on this board idiot.

Kuni
03-08-2007, 08:56 PM
AS USUAL YOU NEVER READ. I said on this board idiot.And EVERYONE of those Rightwing CT’s can be found on THIS BOARD.

We even had at least one guy starting a Thread on Able Danger claiming that the ‘Official Report’; “blundered”.

User Name
03-08-2007, 09:16 PM
spam (spăm) pronunciation
n.

Unsolicited e-mail, often of a commercial nature, sent indiscriminately to multiple mailing lists, individuals, or newsgroups; junk e-mail.
tr.v., spammed, spam·ming, spams.

1. To send unsolicited e-mail to.
2. To send (a message) indiscriminately to multiple mailing lists, individuals, or newsgroups

Are we expanding the term to incude Multiple thread postings?


otherwise... no spam.


This attack thread on one poster seems like a violation of the rules but because it doesn't have the posters naem in the title i understand that it is "OK".

I don't care how many threads someone starts.

as it's not trying to sell me something I'm pretty ok with it.

Tim
03-09-2007, 05:47 AM
dipshit (dip shit) pronunciation
n.

One who is too stupid to understand the use of the word "spam" or "spamming the board" when used to describe a poster who posts a thread for every thought that crosses his mind. (Regardless of how mindless the thought is.)

Tayken
03-09-2007, 09:29 AM
And EVERYONE of those Rightwing CT’s can be found on THIS BOARD.

We even had at least one guy starting a Thread on Able Danger claiming that the ‘Official Report’; “blundered”.

Bullshit. Do you ever stop lying? Seriously do you ever stop lying? The only non liberal on this board who is a CTer is Bubba, and I don't consider him a conservative. Face it. Your side has the idiots.

Kuni
03-09-2007, 05:33 PM
Bullshit. Do you ever stop lying? Seriously do you ever stop lying? The only non liberal on this board who is a CTer is Bubba, and I don't consider him a conservative. Face it. Your side has the idiots.Lying about what? As usual you go off on a rent with nothing to back you up.

Here is the link to the Rightie that fell for the Able Danger CT and dissed the Official Report just like those who think it’s lying about WTC collapse.

http://www.debatebothsides.com/showthread.php?t=27942
. . . This calls into question the credibility of the [9/11 Commission] report because this is not an insignificant piece of information. . .

. . . Rep. Curt Weldon, who first revealed the 9/11 intelligence blunder on Monday, blamed the "firewall" erected by the Clinton Justice Department that prevented sharing intelligence with law enforcement. . .


I can supply links like that to most here on the Right who have bought into one of the following CT’s:

That Reno/Gorelick created a “Firewall” between our Intelligence Agencies and the Justice Department/FBI
Saddam had ties/links to al-Qaeda
Clinton was offered bin Laden by the Sudan
Clinton let bin Laden escape X amount of times
Valerie was not covert
Saddam tried to get uranium from Niger after 1991
The WMD’s got moved to Syria
The Democrats seen the same Intelligence that Bush did
That 80% of household incomes didn’t fall behind inflation in 2005.
Sandy Berger took and destroyed “original document” to keep the 9-11 Commission from seeing them
Intelligent Design is Science


And that would make those on the Right one hell of a lot more inclined to fall for a CT than the few you claim are on the Left who fell for the WTC was brought down by explosives or there was no plane at the Pentagon CT.

Tayken
03-09-2007, 09:24 PM
Lying about what? As usual you go off on a rent with nothing to back you up.

Here is the link to the Rightie that fell for the Able Danger CT and dissed the Official Report just like those who think it’s lying about WTC collapse.

http://www.debatebothsides.com/showthread.php?t=27942



I can supply links like that to most here on the Right who have bought into one of the following CT’s:

That Reno/Gorelick created a “Firewall” between our Intelligence Agencies and the Justice Department/FBI
Saddam had ties/links to al-Qaeda
Clinton was offered bin Laden by the Sudan
Clinton let bin Laden escape X amount of times
Valerie was not covert
Saddam tried to get uranium from Niger after 1991
The WMD’s got moved to Syria
The Democrats seen the same Intelligence that Bush did
That 80% of household incomes didn’t fall behind inflation in 2005.
Sandy Berger took and destroyed “original document” to keep the 9-11 Commission from seeing them
Intelligent Design is Science


And that would make those on the Right one hell of a lot more inclined to fall for a CT than the few you claim are on the Left who fell for the WTC was brought down by explosives or there was no plane at the Pentagon CT.


My statement was that most of the CTers on this board are liberal. As usual, you have lied, distorted and changed the subject. Typical Kuni. Couldn't tell the truth even if it meant saving the life of a loved one.

Kuni
03-10-2007, 08:30 AM
My statement was that most of the CTers on this board are liberal. As usual, you have lied, distorted and changed the subject. Typical Kuni. Couldn't tell the truth even if it meant saving the life of a loved one.There is more than one kind of CT.

To believe “Able Danger”, “Clinton let bin Laden escape X amount of times”, “That Reno/Gorelick created a ‘Firewall’ between our Intelligence Agencies and the Justice Department/FBI” or that “The Sudan offered bin Laden to Clinton” also requires a CT mindset that the “Official Report” lied.

To believe that “Valerie was not covert” requires someone the think that there is some conspiracy between the CIA and the Justice Department.

And the same goes for the rest of the list; to still cling to the WMD claims; you have to believe that the government is covering up their existence because EVERY investigation has said that they did not exist.


Typical Kuni; pointing out the truth to the CT’ers on the Right who think that only those on the Left are CT’ers.

Tayken
03-10-2007, 09:33 AM
There is more than one kind of CT.

To believe “Able Danger”, “Clinton let bin Laden escape X amount of times”, “That Reno/Gorelick created a ‘Firewall’ between our Intelligence Agencies and the Justice Department/FBI” or that “The Sudan offered bin Laden to Clinton” also requires a CT mindset that the “Official Report” lied.

To believe that “Valerie was not covert” requires someone the think that there is some conspiracy between the CIA and the Justice Department.

And the same goes for the rest of the list; to still cling to the WMD claims; you have to believe that the government is covering up their existence because EVERY investigation has said that they did not exist.


Typical Kuni; pointing out the truth to the CT’ers on the Right who think that only those on the Left are CT’ers.
Typical Kuni running a distortion campaign when he knows he was wrong. You're going to have deal with the fact that most of the 9/11 crackpot conspiracists are from your side of the aisle.

Kuni
03-10-2007, 10:29 AM
Typical Kuni running a distortion campaign when he knows he was wrong. You're going to have deal with the fact that most of the 9/11 crackpot conspiracists are from your side of the aisle.Dude; I KNOW that I’m right on this. Same shit, different assholes.

Most are on my side??? The 9-11 Commission looked into many things, not just the towers collapsing. And your side of the aisle also has those who think the "Official Report" was covering shit up.

I remember visiting either WorldNutDaily, or NewsliestotheMax, because I was curious about their coverage of Able Danger. They spent an entire couple of sentences on it where they tried to use it to discredit the “Official Report”. They then claimed that because the “Official Report” was wrong about Able Danger (which we now know was not the case), it must have been wrong about the Clinton/Sudan conclusion, and then spent most of the article on the Clinton/Sudan CT.


Those who claim that the “Tape” of Clinton’s talking off the cuff on this; where they insert words Clinton never said, to backup their CT, is proof that they are no different than those who make the same kind of connections in the Pentagon CT where they use a statement by Flight Controllers about the maneuver the 757 took as “Proof” that there was no 757.

User Name
03-10-2007, 11:56 AM
dipshit (dip shit) pronunciation
n.

One who is too stupid to understand the use of the word "spam" or "spamming the board" when used to describe a poster who posts a thread for every thought that crosses his mind. (Regardless of how mindless the thought is.)you forgot my favorite meaning of the word dipshit... you had to dig 235 meanings down for yours... nuch higher on the list.


n.

one that has to make up meanings to words and/or shift meanings of words in order to make their point.