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Mike
03-01-2007, 12:18 PM
Lib, I’m going to make this as straightforward as I possibly can. I’m well-aware of my faults. I have a lot of them…some you’ve never seen.

One of them is being thin-skinned myself. I -- in fact -- abused Fritz a couple of years ago. I berated myself over that to the point of resigning as a moderator. I abused my position by banning LeTur for posting big images of a “finger”. These items are as fresh to me today as when they happened. They’re “fresh” because they were wrong. They were an overreaction and shouldn’t ever have happened. They’re not your fault…they’re mine.

You evidently want to structure a board that values civility. That’s a truly adventurous undertaking. It can’t, though, just start and end with people being civil to moderators. On the one hand, moderators “moderate”, and they also “post”. If your paradigm is restricted to just protecting moderators, what do you do when they change hats, and become posters? Are they still protected? Is calling such a person a “lying stupid motherfucker” OK, but calling them “#5” is a sin?

I hope you see the problem. Stupid, you’re not, so I’m pretty sure you do.

You’ve sent me exactly three PM’s since I entered my decision regarding moderating. Each of the three contains an abundance of insults…personal insults…degrading insults…lots of foul language. ..references to Christianity, and my presumed departure from it…references to prominent Christians that you think I resemble…you even (several times) called my a “misogynist“ You’ve accused me of abusing the privileges granted through administration via the “super moderator” status. Other than what I mentioned above, I don’t think I have…unless you consider expressing “whistle-blower“ type comments an abuse of my position.

You and I were friends for a very long time, Lib. We agreed far more on matters of substance than we ever disagreed on.

I am going to abuse the “moderator” hat here. I’m going to post this as a sticky since I still have the right to do so. Either you or aV can delete it posthaste if you want to.

I think a “lighter hand” is already evident here, at DBS. I think that at least part of the reason for the “lighter hand” is the “light-of-day” that’s been shone on the issue.

No lib, my brain hasn’t “rotted” as you inferred on HC.

JackTheReaper
03-01-2007, 12:30 PM
I am going to abuse the “moderator” hat here. I’m going to post this as a sticky since I still have the right to do so. Either you or aV can delete it posthaste if you want to.
That would be the wrong thing to do, is what I think. Everyone here, even mods, need a voice, albeit I agree a more rational discourse is preferable to the outrageous partisan shrill I hear a lot and practiced myself in the past.

This could spawn a very interesting discussion, maybe resolving somehow some of the tensions that seem to exist today between the various forum members. But, that's jmoho, so don't take my reply here as gospel.

Bubba2
03-01-2007, 01:09 PM
MY! Criticism of moderators by moderators in the open. That's a TWO WEEK BAN!

Esbe, Sol and I have been accurate about the fairness of the moderating here. We've all been banned for it. No, I'm not serious about banning mike. However, lib and aV should be. Forever!

Neurobürger
03-01-2007, 01:30 PM
MY! Criticism of moderators by moderators in the open. That's a TWO WEEK BAN!

Esbe, Sol and I have been accurate about the fairness of the moderating here. We've all been banned for it. No, I'm not serious about banning mike. However, lib and aV should be. Forever!


what're you whining about? they've practically allowed you to single-handedly turn this place into a virtual annex of JEWWATCH.COM


i think they mighta went overboard banning tayken over the "number five" incident tho

Jitoen Le Tur
03-01-2007, 02:05 PM
Mike has been better once he finally realized Bush is a complete idiot. Once he realizes open free elections that can be audeted are best for the country, he might be an okay guy, capable of legitimate discussion. Too bad Kuni is sending nasty messages to Mike.

A Voice
03-01-2007, 02:14 PM
Mike,

Quiting the gig in the manner you chose to and then coming back to use moderator powers:
I am going to abuse the “moderator” hat here. I’m going to post this as a sticky since I still have the right to do so. Either you or aV can delete it posthaste if you want to.
says everything that needs to be said.

I am unsticking this and moving it to Abuse reports.

A Voice

Tayken
03-01-2007, 02:23 PM
Mike,

Quiting the gig in the manner you chose too and then coming back to use moderator powers:

says everything that needs to be said.

I am unsticking this and moving it to Abuse reports.

A Voice

Tell us how you feel about Lib deleting Mike's post several weeks ago, when Mike broke no rules. C'mon A Voice. Since you are supposed to be so sincere and such a stickler, do you think Mike had a right to be mad about what Lib did?

Mike
03-01-2007, 02:23 PM
One couldn't possibly infer that you don't want the content of this thread READ by rank-and-file posters, could one?

Nah...Certainly not.

You want everything open and above board, I'm sure, and hiding the post in "abuse reports" can't be construed as actually "hiding it"...

Nope.

Dingo
03-01-2007, 02:30 PM
One couldn't possibly infer that you don't want the content of this thread READ by rank-and-file posters, could one?

Nah...Certainly not.

You want everything open and above board, I'm sure, and hiding the post in "abuse reports" can't be construed as actually "hiding it"...

Nope.

Abuse reports go into Abuse Reports, is that such a hard concept to grasp Mike? And how is it being hid?

By the way, I thought you told me you thought of yourself as just another poster now? What's your latest identity - moderator at large?

A Voice
03-01-2007, 06:26 PM
Tell us how you feel about Lib deleting Mike's post several weeks ago, when Mike broke no rules. C'mon A Voice. Since you are supposed to be so sincere and such a stickler, do you think Mike had a right to be mad about what Lib did?

Mike made a choice to explode out of here creating as much damage as possible. An adult would have quietly resigned. I am not sure what the right move would have been under those circumstances. When someone behaves in a manner that defies logic and civil behavior, one is left to manage as best as possible.

Today Mike showed his true nature again. Did posting this thread to "Current Events" with a sticky (an abuse of the moderator powers he had given up) show sincerity and civility? It did not.

Tayken
03-01-2007, 06:32 PM
Mike made a choice to explode out of here creating as much damage as possible. An adult would have quietly resigned. I am not sure what the right move would have been under those circumstances. When someone behaves in a manner that defies logic and civil behavior, one is left to manage as best as possible.

Today Mike showed his true nature again. Did posting this thread to "Current Events" with a sticky (an abuse of the moderator powers he had given up) show sincerity and civility? It did not.

Thanks for showing everyone how big of a phony you truly are. While you may not like the way Mike resigned, HE DIDN'T BREAK ANY SINGLE RULE. Lib had absolutely no business going in and deleting Mike's post. NONE.

Mister B
03-01-2007, 06:40 PM
Mike made a choice to explode out of here creating as much damage as possible. An adult would have quietly resigned. I am not sure what the right move would have been under those circumstances. When someone behaves in a manner that defies logic and civil behavior, one is left to manage as best as possible.

Today Mike showed his true nature again. Did posting this thread to "Current Events" with a sticky (an abuse of the moderator powers he had given up) show sincerity and civility? It did not.

Karen -

Given that an inordinate amount of time at this forum is spent complaining about your moderation style -

Perhaps as "an adult" you should "quietly resign."

You know - so as not to "defy logic" or "civil behavior."

For heaven's sake - what do you get from your insistence on remaining here as a moderator?

I have such profound respect for the "pre-moderator" A Voice......

I'm sure that I - and you - would love to see her again.

Are you objective enough to look at my question ....as the remarkably intelligent and empathetic person you really are?

A Voice
03-01-2007, 06:46 PM
Thanks for showing everyone how big of a phony you truly are. While you may not like the way Mike resigned, HE DIDN'T BREAK ANY SINGLE RULE. Lib had absolutely no business going in and deleting Mike's post. NONE.

There is no way on earth we could've anticapated Mike's meltdown in the rules. We cannot anticipate every single permutation of behavior in the rules. Sorry, the world is not as black and white as you would like, but there it is.

Lib had good cause to do what he did. Most rational people see this.

Now, since I answered your question, be so kind as to answer mine:
Today Mike showed his true nature again. Did posting this thread to "Current Events" with a sticky (an abuse of the moderator powers he had given up) show sincerity and civility?

A Voice
03-01-2007, 06:53 PM
Karen -

Given that an inordinate amount of time at this forum is spent complaining about your moderation style -

Perhaps as "an adult" you should "quietly resign."

You know - so as not to "defy logic" or "civil behavior."

For heaven's sake - what do you get from your insistence on remaining here as a moderator?

I have such profound respect for the "pre-moderator" A Voice......

I'm sure that I - and you - would love to see her again.

Are you objective enough to look at my question ....as the remarkably intelligent and empathetic person you really are?

Nope. I am being bullied by a few guys who have nothing better to do with their time. Considering the amount of flack I have taken I will be forced to stay in my position as Moderator for at least another year. I wouldn't want to give any of you the satisfaction of thinking I left the gig because of your abuse.

I feel no need to resign. Do you know why? Because of all the people who have rallied around me publically and privately. As crappy as you gentlemen have made the last couple of weeks, the support I am getting from others is so gratifying. Part of me wants to thank you for being so incredibly mean - because of you, I've learned that I have some very good friends here.

This is my final statement on this matter. I am staying.

A Voice

Tayken
03-01-2007, 07:03 PM
There is no way on earth we could've anticapated Mike's meltdown in the rules. We cannot anticipate every single permutation of behavior in the rules. Sorry, the world is not as black and white as you would like, but there it is.

Lib had good cause to do what he did. Most rational people see this.

Now, since I answered your question, be so kind as to answer mine:

You once again are the insincere phony woman I've always known to be. Your disingenous attitude is why liberals and conservatives don't like your moderating skills. Considering how Lib has constantly broken the rules, I have no problem of Mike doing what he did.

Tayken
03-01-2007, 07:04 PM
Nope. I am being bullied by a few guys who have nothing better to do with their time. Considering the amount of flack I have taken I will be forced to stay in my position as Moderator for at least another year. I wouldn't want to give any of you the satisfaction of thinking I left the gig because of your abuse.

I feel no need to resign. Do you know why? Because of all the people who have rallied around me publically and privately. As crappy as you gentlemen have made the last couple of weeks, the support I am getting from others is so gratifying. Part of me wants to thank you for being so incredibly mean - because of you, I've learned that I have some very good friends here.

This is my final statement on this matter. I am staying.

A Voice

You better be very thick skinned because you are going to get extra scrutiny and be called on every injustice you hand out.

A Voice
03-01-2007, 07:33 PM
You better be very thick skinned because you are going to get extra scrutiny and be called on every injustice you hand out.

Basically that's a threat to continue your harassment of me. Don't you get it? Are you really this stupid?

You have proven yourself to be a crude jackass and overly excitable to boot. Now you or going to give me "extra-scrutiny"? Dude, if I said that to you, you'd be screaming bloody murder.

This proves what a peevish little bully you are. This proves everything I've been saying about you.

Mister B
03-01-2007, 07:42 PM
Nope. I am being bullied by a few guys who have nothing better to do with their time. Considering the amount of flack I have taken I will be forced to stay in my position as Moderator for at least another year. I wouldn't want to give any of you the satisfaction of thinking I left the gig because of your abuse.

I feel no need to resign. Do you know why? Because of all the people who have rallied around me publically and privately. As crappy as you gentlemen have made the last couple of weeks, the support I am getting from others is so gratifying. Part of me wants to thank you for being so incredibly mean - because of you, I've learned that I have some very good friends here.

This is my final statement on this matter. I am staying.

A Voice

How incredibly small you have allowed your life to become.

I mean that sincerely, Karen.

You used to be somebody whose distinguishing characteristic was that you were so special.

And now your life is here.









Here.









I mourn for the person you were.

A Voice
03-01-2007, 07:49 PM
How incredibly small you have allowed your life to become.

I mean that sincerely, Karen.

You used to be somebody whose distinguishing characteristic was that you were so special.

And now your life is here.









Here.









I mourn for the person you were.

B I mean this personally and in the spirit your mourning for the "old" me you think you knew.































Fuck off asshole.

Blaze Manly
03-01-2007, 08:07 PM
How incredibly small you have allowed your life to become.

I mean that sincerely, Karen.

You used to be somebody whose distinguishing characteristic was that you were so special.

And now your life is here.









Here.









I mourn for the person you were.

Jeeeeeezus, B-boy!

Hasn't it even begun to sink in for you that NO ONE has ever felt a need to "not be judged" by you? What actual GOOD have you ever done for this or any discussion board? Do you GET that what you say you are in life is irrelevent here? Only what you POST matters. And you guys are basically having discussions ABOUT having discussions lately.

That is so funny! What is actually being discussed here? That you "used to like" A_Voice," but "like, man, she's CHANGED?"

That is so funny.

You used to be cool.





























OK, not really; I was just having a laugh. You were never cool.

Mister B
03-01-2007, 08:09 PM
B I mean this personally and in the spirit your mourning for the "old" me you think you knew.






























Fuck off asshole.


You've gone over the edge, Karen.

It brings me no joy to know that your life - which I'm sure was full of self-expression, hope and contribution to others -


Is now centered here.



You have my deepest and most heartfelt sympathy.

Tomorrow I'll get up, have a lovely breakfast with my wife after we read in bed and enjoy each other's company with the cats and dogs all up in our room.
We'll go down to Bandon and look at some property and, weather permitting, feed the sea lions off the jetty.
Then we'll come back to town and visit friends and at 8 pm she'll whoop it up while I sit in with the blues jam at a local tavern for a few hours. I might even get her up on stage to belt out a few numbers. We'll have a few drinks, laugh, come home and enjoy each other's company till bedtime.




That's called "life".




What you have convinced yourself is "life" here - with your imaginary friends who live on your monitor........

And denying the wonderful "you" that was expressed so beautifully here....



Is something else.





I cannot express how profoundly sad I am for you.

User Name
03-01-2007, 10:33 PM
*pulls out a coin, looks at the heads side, looks at the tails side, looks at the side side*


I'm getting three sides here.

Lib
03-01-2007, 11:14 PM
what're you whining about? they've practically allowed you to single-handedly turn this place into a virtual annex of JEWWATCH.COM


i think they mighta went overboard banning tayken over the "number five" incident tho
Neuro. Tayken lies. He was not suspended for the number five incident. Period.

But he could be in the future. If someone has an issue with a moderator action or decision they have all the ways they need to deal with it. They can PM the moderator and make their case, They can PM all the moderators and make their case. Or, they can post publicly in Abuse Reports and make their case. When they do so they have to address the specific issue and they can't attack the moderator for trying to do their moderator job.

Simple and fair. When it's all over someone has to figure out what to do and it will be tne moderator or the moderators. At that point the issue is over. If the poster can't stand it they should find a place that suits them.

A Voice
03-01-2007, 11:45 PM
Thanks for showing everyone how big of a phony you truly are. While you may not like the way Mike resigned, HE DIDN'T BREAK ANY SINGLE RULE. Lib had absolutely no business going in and deleting Mike's post. NONE.

Wait a sec. Mike left by posting two pm's. Aren't you desperately trying to get me busted for posting one of my own pm's?

Tayken
03-02-2007, 07:40 AM
Neuro. Tayken lies. He was not suspended for the number five incident. Period.

But he could be in the future. If someone has an issue with a moderator action or decision they have all the ways they need to deal with it. They can PM the moderator and make their case, They can PM all the moderators and make their case. Or, they can post publicly in Abuse Reports and make their case. When they do so they have to address the specific issue and they can't attack the moderator for trying to do their moderator job.

Simple and fair. When it's all over someone has to figure out what to do and it will be tne moderator or the moderators. At that point the issue is over. If the poster can't stand it they should find a place that suits them.

Now Lib doesn't tell the whole truth. I asked and I asked and I asked and you didn't tell me until yesterday. Why the distortions lib? Why are you unable to give the whole story? Why do you continuously lie on Hypercrites Lib? ARe you too thin skinned to face the truth and the facts? Is that why you continuously lie? Why do you think you are almighty God to go in and remove someone's post when they haven't broken any rules? Thank God for Hypercrites. Because if you pull your bullshit again, I can at least expose you for it over there.

Tayken
03-02-2007, 07:42 AM
Wait a sec. Mike left by posting two pm's. Aren't you desperately trying to get me busted for posting one of my own pm's?

Well you've already shown your insincerity. I'll just call it the No. 5 rule from now on. Whenever you or Lib give me one of your insincere PM's I'll go ahead and make it public. When you scold me that I wasn't supposed to do that, I'll just cite the No. 5 rule.

Tayken
03-02-2007, 10:27 PM
You've gone over the edge, Karen.

It brings me no joy to know that your life - which I'm sure was full of self-expression, hope and contribution to others -


Is now centered here.



You have my deepest and most heartfelt sympathy.

Tomorrow I'll get up, have a lovely breakfast with my wife after we read in bed and enjoy each other's company with the cats and dogs all up in our room.
We'll go down to Bandon and look at some property and, weather permitting, feed the sea lions off the jetty.
Then we'll come back to town and visit friends and at 8 pm she'll whoop it up while I sit in with the blues jam at a local tavern for a few hours. I might even get her up on stage to belt out a few numbers. We'll have a few drinks, laugh, come home and enjoy each other's company till bedtime.




That's called "life".




What you have convinced yourself is "life" here - with your imaginary friends who live on your monitor........

And denying the wonderful "you" that was expressed so beautifully here....



Is something else.





I cannot express how profoundly sad I am for you.

You nailed it B.

Dingo
03-02-2007, 11:07 PM
You've gone over the edge, Karen.

It brings me no joy to know that your life - which I'm sure was full of self-expression, hope and contribution to others -


Is now centered here.



You have my deepest and most heartfelt sympathy.

Tomorrow I'll get up, have a lovely breakfast with my wife after we read in bed and enjoy each other's company with the cats and dogs all up in our room.
We'll go down to Bandon and look at some property and, weather permitting, feed the sea lions off the jetty.
Then we'll come back to town and visit friends and at 8 pm she'll whoop it up while I sit in with the blues jam at a local tavern for a few hours. I might even get her up on stage to belt out a few numbers. We'll have a few drinks, laugh, come home and enjoy each other's company till bedtime.




That's called "life".




What you have convinced yourself is "life" here - with your imaginary friends who live on your monitor........

And denying the wonderful "you" that was expressed so beautifully here....



Is something else.





I cannot express how profoundly sad I am for you.

What the hell are you doing here "Mr. I've got my life together and don't need the internet" guy?

Your sadness comes off more like preening. I really feel profoundly sad that you have to come to a board and advertise your apparently not very interesting life as being supposedly superior to someone elses to feel you are a somebody.

dewey189
03-03-2007, 06:35 AM
I really feel profoundly sad that you have to come to a board and advertise your apparently not very interesting life as being supposedly superior to someone elses to feel you are a somebody.Gosh, I don't know Dingo. I was sitting in a hotel room in Atlanta trying to fix flaws in a chapter of a document I REALLY want to finish this year when I read Mr. B's comment:
and at 8 pm she'll whoop it up while I sit in with the blues jam at a local tavern for a few hours. I might even get her up on stage to belt out a few numbers. We'll have a few drinks, laugh, come home and enjoy each other's company till bedtime. That's called "life".I turned off the laptop, went down to the hotel bar and met a couple of really nice sales people in town to peddle water filtration systems. We talked a lot about tornados, our mutual dislike of Nancy Graces "outrage" look, Wolf Blitzers unnatural way of speaking, what characteristics makes a beer great, and why a life without cheese is not a life well lived. I had such a nice time last night and owe Mr. B a thank you for getting me out of that dreary room. Personally? I like it when posters share a bit more about their lives. It gives this place a warmer feel.

Mister B
03-03-2007, 12:50 PM
Gosh, I don't know Dingo. I was sitting in a hotel room in Atlanta trying to fix flaws in a chapter of a document I REALLY want to finish this year when I read Mr. B's comment:
I turned off the laptop, went down to the hotel bar and met a couple of really nice sales people in town to peddle water filtration systems. We talked a lot about tornados, our mutual dislike of Nancy Graces "outrage" look, Wolf Blitzers unnatural way of speaking, what characteristics makes a beer great, and why a life without cheese is not a life well lived. I had such a nice time last night and owe Mr. B a thank you for getting me out of that dreary room. Personally? I like it when posters share a bit more about their lives. It gives this place a warmer feel.

What a remarkably fine person you are, dewey. Only a person that is happy with their life and content with who they are as a person would get what I'm trying to say. You got value from my post because you live your life in a way that allows you to see valuable things for what they are - a contribution to you that is given w ith nothing expected in return. Only a person with enough personal power understands that.

Other people - who secretly think that their lives are wanting - see such things as attacks on them and seek to make themselves feel better by screaming, "Mr. B thinks he's better than me! That hurts my little feelings!"

It takes a critical mass of "bigness" and maturity to be inspired by others rather than feel threatened by them.

It's a shame you live so far away - Mrs. B and I would love to meet you and "Mr. dewey". I'm sure we'd enjoy each other's company immensely.

Mister B
03-03-2007, 01:03 PM
What the hell are you doing here "Mr. I've got my life together and don't need the internet" guy?

Your sadness comes off more like preening. I really feel profoundly sad that you have to come to a board and advertise your apparently not very interesting life as being supposedly superior to someone elses to feel you are a somebody.

To you, dingo, and also A Voice and Blaze Manly (Jeeeezus) -

The town of Coos Bay has only 15,000 people. As a successful businessman (you wanna call me a big fish in a little pond, I got no problem with that) I'm called on to give talks to local businesspeople and to high school kids all the time. The ones who see success and a happy life as something inspiring and something as good goals in life are SO willing to be worked with and to be mentored. I give my time to these people as much as I can - they are wonderful and inspiring to me and give me as much value as I ever give to them.

The others - who whine and complain and see my success and happy life as something that somehow threatens them or invalidates them somehow have reactions like yours, A Voice's and Blaze Manley"s, ignoring any value they may have gotten and clinging to their excuses for having lives that are not an expression of their goals.

I feel bad for these people - like I feel bad for you three - because you just don't get it.

Perhaps someday you will have the maturity and sense of self to be inspired by the success of others. Till then, you are just a waste of time.

Mind you - I'm not saying that being like you is bad or wrong - it's just a shame that, since we only get to be alive once, you are willing to live life in such a small way.






Do you even get that?

dewey189
03-03-2007, 01:08 PM
You got value from my post because you live your life in a way that allows you to see valuable things for what they are - a contribution to you that is given with nothing expected in return. That's the way it felt to me and thanks, btw! I may have lost some valuable quiet hotel writing time last night, but on balance, it was worth it. One of the guys recommended this website. It features pics of cool statues from around the world.

http://haha.nu/funny/strange-statues-around-the-world/

Mister B
03-03-2007, 01:28 PM
That's the way it felt to me and thanks, btw! I may have lost some valuable quiet hotel writing time last night, but on balance, it was worth it. One of the guys recommended this website. It features pics of cool statues from around the world.

http://haha.nu/funny/strange-statues-around-the-world/

What a great site, dewey - thanks!

And thank you for being you.

When you get to be an old coot like me (I'm 61) and you get to slow down a bit, please consider mentoring. A couple of years ago a counselor from one of our local schools talked me into sponsoring a mentor program for adults and high school kids, and I do that a lot now. It's more rewarding than I ever dreamed possible. Since I have an excellent person to handle both my fishing boat and my house-flipping business (she's a lot like you, I'll wager) I have the priveledge of getting to spend all the time I want with my mentoring program. It's a blast. The great thing is that seeing these folks be more than they ever thought possible contributes much more to me than I could EVER contribute to them. I used to worry about "those damned kids today'. Since I've been working with them, I don't worry any more about where this country is going. These kids - and their adult counterparts - inspire me so much that I can't wait to get to be with them. Someone like you has so much to give to others - but I'll bet you are already sharing yourself with others in a way that makes a difference for them.

It's an honor to get to interact with someone like you. Thanks.

Dingo
03-04-2007, 07:32 AM
Gosh, I don't know Dingo. I was sitting in a hotel room in Atlanta trying to fix flaws in a chapter of a document I REALLY want to finish this year when I read Mr. B's comment:

I turned off the laptop, went down to the hotel bar and met a couple of really nice sales people in town to peddle water filtration systems. We talked a lot about tornados, our mutual dislike of Nancy Graces "outrage" look, Wolf Blitzers unnatural way of speaking, what characteristics makes a beer great, and why a life without cheese is not a life well lived. I had such a nice time last night and owe Mr. B a thank you for getting me out of that dreary room. Personally? I like it when posters share a bit more about their lives. It gives this place a warmer feel.

It wasn't about sharing his life dewey. It was about pissing on a moderator who had pointed out a complaint of his had no merit. Perhaps you didn't pick up on that. It was on another thread.

Mister B. Do you even get that?
My opinion stands jerkoff!

Mister B
03-04-2007, 11:14 AM
My opinion stands jerkoff!

When you're lying on your deathbed, dingo, looking back with regret at all the stuff you never did or had or were because you spent your life arguing for your own limitations.....



It'll be too late to "get it".

Sorry, pal - that's just the truth.

Dingo
03-04-2007, 02:06 PM
When you're lying on your deathbed, dingo, looking back with regret at all the stuff you never did or had or were because you spent your life arguing for your own limitations.....



It'll be too late to "get it".

Sorry, pal - that's just the truth.

Mister B,. perhaps you live in a world where your endless dronings about what a superior character you are is taken seriously.

I don't live in that world.

dewey189
03-04-2007, 05:55 PM
It wasn't about sharing his life dewey. But that's the part I was responding to, Dingo. His comment changed my night for the better and I was grateful.

Mister B
03-04-2007, 06:30 PM
Mister B,. perhaps you live in a world where your endless dronings about what a superior character you are is taken seriously.

I don't live in that world.









Obviously.


Be at peace, dingo.


It's like I said -

You just don't get it.

Dewey does.

The sun will still come up tomorrow for everybody.

Dingo
03-04-2007, 06:48 PM
But that's the part I was responding to, Dingo. His comment changed my night for the better and I was grateful.

Great, however you called me on my comment to him first so I was responding. Different perspectives is fine with me.

And as his last comment shows my observation about him was spot on. He continues to desperately need to portray himself as a superior character.

Mister B
03-04-2007, 08:51 PM
Great, however you called me on my comment to him first so I was responding. Different perspectives is fine with me.

And as his last comment shows my observation about him was spot on. He continues to desperately need to portray himself as a superior character.

Whatever makes you happy, dingo.

And yet oddly enough -

Dewey doesn't see it that way at all.

She and I just had a pleasant exchange as equals.

The rest is all in your head.

The least you can do is take responsibility for the way you choose to interpret things.

Have a nice life.

Dingo
03-04-2007, 09:25 PM
Gee Mr. B. I know how badly you want to cap this thread with one more patronizing wheeze. But a little devil just told me to deny you what you so desperately want. Also you ought to try standing on your own feet and not grasp so shamelessly for backup.

Sorry I didn't give you the last word. Try again and maybe a sweet angel will whisper in my ear and say "Oh please generous Dingo, let the poor insecure self-promoting fraud off the hook."

Give it a shot. You might get lucky. No promises. :D

Islanders_for_the_cup_04
03-04-2007, 09:26 PM
I was curious about this and was hoping someone could enlighten me.

Mike complains that the current moderatorship enforces rules that do not exist.

OK

Does that extend to folks who resign their moderatorship and create sticky threads? Does this mean that all posters to this site have the priveledge of creating sticky threads or just Mike?

Dingo
03-04-2007, 09:37 PM
I was curious about this and was hoping someone could enlighten me.

Mike complains that the current moderatorship enforces rules that do not exist.

OK

Does that extend to folks who resign their moderatorship and create sticky threads? Does this mean that all posters to this site have the priveledge of creating sticky threads or just Mike?

Yeah, he quite explicitly abandoned his job as moderator. I suggested he had changed his mind and was now taking on the title of moderator-at-large. No, you and I don't get the privilege. ;)

Mister B
03-05-2007, 08:12 AM
Gee Mr. B. I know how badly you want to cap this thread with one more patronizing wheeze. But a little devil just told me to deny you what you so desperately want. Also you ought to try standing on your own feet and not grasp so shamelessly for backup.

Sorry I didn't give you the last word. Try again and maybe a sweet angel will whisper in my ear and say "Oh please generous Dingo, let the poor insecure self-promoting fraud off the hook."

Give it a shot. You might get lucky. No promises. :D

Interesting, dingo.

Two people read the same thing.

One finds it interesting and inspiring.

The other (that would be you) sees it as an attack on them.

You can't even take responsibility for how you choose to interpret things...just like a little boy who feels everyone is picking on him.

Being a small, vulnerable person, you project your way of being onto others, assuming they're all just like you.

You're the one with a problem here, sonny.

If you spend the rest of your life resenting anyone who is happier and more successful than you - or seeing what could be a contribution to you as just one more thing out in the world that makes you feel bad about yourself - I doubt it's going to do a lot for your growth as a person.

But I never said that made you bad and wrong - YOU made that up in your head.

How you live your life is nothing to me.

It's just a shame for you.

dewey189
03-05-2007, 10:10 AM
He continues to desperately need to portray himself as a superior character. I just don't see that, Dingo, though I remember once getting into a bit of a verbal spat with him when he commented about some fine dining experience he had. It came across on the pompous side to me, and the two of us went around and around in a posting frenzy, eventually realizing half way through the conversation that what we had in common, a love of good food, seemed to trump any other point we were trying to make! I realized back then that I had a lot in common with the man, but when it comes down to it, I have a lot in common with everyone here. With one or two exceptions!

Dingo
03-05-2007, 01:31 PM
Interesting, dingo.

Two people read the same thing.

One finds it interesting and inspiring.

The other (that would be you) sees it as an attack on them.

You can't even take responsibility for how you choose to interpret things...just like a little boy who feels everyone is picking on him.

Being a small, vulnerable person, you project your way of being onto others, assuming they're all just like you.

You're the one with a problem here, sonny.

If you spend the rest of your life resenting anyone who is happier and more successful than you - or seeing what could be a contribution to you as just one more thing out in the world that makes you feel bad about yourself - I doubt it's going to do a lot for your growth as a person.

But I never said that made you bad and wrong - YOU made that up in your head.

How you live your life is nothing to me.

It's just a shame for you.

Sorry, I didn't give you the last word you pompous blowhard.

Try again. :D

Dingo
03-05-2007, 01:47 PM
I just don't see that, Dingo, though I remember once getting into a bit of a verbal spat with him when he commented about some fine dining experience he had. It came across on the pompous side to me

It came across pompous because he's a pompous self-promoter. First impressions are often right. He may be a lot of other things but hardly a post goes by that doesn't show him desperately trying to make himself appear better than others. In his last post he even stepped it up, not apparently seeing the sheer irony in his denial.

Actually I find it quite funny and enjoy skewering his silly ass. He, of course, not having a sense of humor about himself feels I "resent" his high achievements or whatever. That's the world he lives in. The guy is a laugh and a half. :rolleyes:

Mister B
03-06-2007, 02:33 PM
Tell ya what dingo -

Since you are obviously unwilling (notice I didn't say incapable) of seeing anything I say through other than your own ideas of who people are -

And given that those ideas are so twisted out of shape by your own insecurities about yourself -

I guess I just won't bother.

The first time you attacked me you said my problem was that "my boss" wouldn't let me complain. When you found I I AM the boss, you decided my problem was just the opposite - that I'm the boss. And yet you think you have some idea of who I am.The truth is you don't know shit about me - you only think you do. And what you think you know about me is just what you transferred from your notions of yourself. Until you jumped me last week I had NEVER has any discourse with you - and now suddenly you've got a big hard on for me.

What the fuck is up with that?

Take your little fantasies about whatever big rivalry you think we're having and keep them to yourself. They're only real for YOU.

What I find amusing is your notion that you are somehow important enough for me to even CARE about what you think about anything one way or another.

Here's the bad news: you're not. You are nothing and nobody to me- this whole dustup is your creation. I wouldn't walk across the street to piss on you if you were on fire.

And yet you think that you have some significance in my life......well, if that makes you happy, knock your lights out.

Interesting - dingo having a conversation with himself about somebody he thinks is just like him.

That's just plain nuts.

You obviously don't need me - or anybody else - to make you feel badly about yourself.

You do just fine on your own.

I'm not responsible for the fact that you look at yourself and find your life wanting in comparison to the lives of others. You want me to be, but sorry sonny - that's just you talking to yourself again.

Please feel free to be as miserable as you like and to take yourself as seriously as you like.

It's none of my concern.

Dingo
03-06-2007, 03:00 PM
The pompous blowhard tries desperately or should we say iteratively(Maybe he ought to tape record it and have it input automatically to my posts) to make his last superior word the capper. And such EFFORT he puts into it. Sadly once again he fails. Jeeeeeeez, life is so unfair to the great ones.

But keep trying oh superior one. :D

dewey189
03-06-2007, 03:53 PM
Moving on, if Cheney passes away, who do you think Bush will replace him with?

Dingo
03-06-2007, 04:26 PM
Moving on, if Cheney passes away, who do you think Bush will replace him with?

How about Karl Rove? He wouldn't need a press secretary. We'd have the spinmeister himself. :rolleyes:

dewey189
03-06-2007, 04:46 PM
How about Karl Rove? He wouldn't need a press secretary. We'd have the spinmeister himself. :rolleyes:LOL! I was wondering today, should Cheney pass away before his term ends would the GOP put their favorite '08 candidate in the job, just for the exposure?

Dingo
03-06-2007, 06:00 PM
LOL! I was wondering today, should Cheney pass away before his term ends would the GOP put their favorite '08 candidate in the job, just for the exposure?

Well maybe George would put in his favorite - Jeb. After all he was suppose to be the smart political one who the family had slated for the big job. George was coming off a long drunk, had done nothing in business on his own merits and was best remembered as governor for snickering while a born again lady with lots of good service in prison under her belt was appealing her death sentence.