Islander making attacks on my family

[Sol]

Or we could give them all a good wiff of your mother's rancid love drippings.http://www.debatebothsides.com/showpost.php?p=746128&postcount=33

I see you've been downwind of Sol's mother's vagina.http://www.debatebothsides.com/showpost.php?p=746136&postcount=38

I have an idea.

I think any mod that gets out of line should be forced to sniff your mother's vagina.

Problem solvedhttp://www.debatebothsides.com/showpost.php?p=746133&postcount=4

Why should I respect what he wants?

His mother certainly doesn't respect what I want. Afterall just last week I told her to put her vagina away and she took out half of downtown Boston with it.

Oh, and this makes you look good?

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e382/Cruz2008/thisisfunny.gifhttp://www.debatebothsides.com/showpost.php?p=746150&postcount=9



Does your mother play with a dog like that?

I'll bet Sol's mother plays with dogs like that. Then again I'll bet they go through lots of dogs in that household considering she got that big fucking hermit crab living all up in there.http://www.debatebothsides.com/showpost.php?p=746162&postcount=11

I did but the crabs in Sol's mother's vagina ate it. It was really creepy. There's one that lives inside it that's like one of those hermit crabs you see on the beach. I betcha it snapped off Sol's pecker on the way out.

Fucking gross.http://www.debatebothsides.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=746144



Tayken's family too now:


Was Tayken's mother able to get the flute in her pussy?http://www.debatebothsides.com/showpost.php?p=746182&postcount=33




Lib or Mike, can you clarify - Are these the kind of attacks on someone's family that are bannable?

[Islanders_for_the_cup_04]

You want me banned?

You big hunk of free speech martyr you. Come here so I can give you a kiss!!!!!

[Bubba2]

Of course they're bannable. I've already submitted my complaints, utilizing the proper channels of course!!!

[Islanders_for_the_cup_04]

Of course they're bannable. I've already submitted my complaints, utilizing the proper channels of course!!!

You've submitted complaints?

funny to see how this shit works.

LOL!!!

[Bubba2]

You've submitted complaints?

funny to see how this shit works.

LOL!!!

Yeah, it's called PAYBACK, goatFUCKER!!!

[Hunter Rose]

You want me banned?

You big hunk of free speech martyr you. Come here so I can give you a kiss!!!!!


Are those actually your quotes?

Did you say those things?

[Islanders_for_the_cup_04]

Yeah, it's called PAYBACK, goatFUCKER!!!

Guess what.


I'm not going to cry about it should I be banned. Nor am I going to play myself up as some free speech martyr. You idiots already over played your hand on that part.

I have something you and Sol don't have. It's called a life!!

[Sol]

Are those actually your quotes?

Did you say those things?
I noticed he has been saying it all over. So, yes.

I added a couple more I found.

[Bubba2]

Guess what.


I'm not going to cry about it should I be banned. Nor am I going to play myself up as some free speech martyr. You idiots already over played your hand on that part.

I have something you and Sol don't have. It's called a life!!

Irrelevant. I've got a life too.

What is relevant is the equal application of the rules that you commies here insist on. Are they only to be used against Esbe, WMM, BC, Gerry, myself and anyone else who refuses to agree with your warped view of the world?

[Islanders_for_the_cup_04]

Irrelevant. I've got a life too.

What is relevant is the equal application of the rules that you commies here insist on. Are they only to be used against Esbe, WMM, BC, Gerry, myself and anyone else who refuses to agree with your warped view of the world?

You're the one who's insisting on them. Whenever you dickheads break the rules we're all supposed to turn our heads and look the other way. Then when you make a federal case out of it we're all supposed to hold you up as the shitty martyrs you like to see yourselves as.

I don't see myself as a martyr. I did what I did knowing full well what the consequences would be. I'm not going to hold any grudges should I get a week off. I certainly don't think I'm above the rules.

The rules don't stop from saying what I want to say though. I have a choice in that matter.

[Sol]

Guess what.


I'm not going to cry about it should I be banned. Nor am I going to play myself up as some free speech martyr. You idiots already over played your hand on that part.

I have something you and Sol don't have. It's called a life!!
Lets see Islander, I already have a bachelor's degree, double major in Finance and Business Administration. I have a high level IT portfolio with 10 years of professional web development, graphic design and project management. I've contracted and independently developed major systems for multimillion dollar companies which they are still using. I was a Business/ System's Analyst for a Fortune 500 company's financial institution right after I graduated college, afterwhich I went to law school (on a huge scholarship) to diversify my education even further. I've won multiple awards and honors for my acheivement in law school, and I barely ever go to class. Last semester I went to class a handful of times, and studied a semester's worth of material in 2 days or less for each class and maintained my scholarship GPA.

I studied international business in England. I have traveled all over this country, as well as been to Mexico multiple times and backpacked northern Europe. I have had a group of crazy friends who I love. I have friends in Australia, Tokyo, England, Germany who all have an open room for me anytime I want to visit.

I have tons of friends all over the city, of many different racial/economic/cultural backgrounds (unlike you), and I can get in a number of the top clubs in the city any night because I'm friends with many different DJs (I'm an underground House/DnB head). I just logged on to find your pathetic little "attacks" after hanging out this evening with a black gay friend of mine who I just helped plan his going away party since he is leaving to teach again in Toyko at the end of the month.

I just freeflowed the above without even thinking. I'm sure I left out many comparisons between us, but that's okay, the difference is obvious.

You saying I don't have a life is a joke. That's evidenced by the fact that you find it incomprehensible that I could even be telling the truth about this because you live such a miserable existence that it is unbelievable for you, whereas for me, it is a state that I am not fully grateful for since I can see much better for myself.

[Islanders_for_the_cup_04]

BTW i did Mike to as well.

You might wanna throw that one up here for good measure.

[Sol]

You want me banned?

Since we are in a turbulent state on the forum at the moment, I just want to hear what LIb or Mike has to say about your family attacks and the forum policy before anyone takes any action.

[Islanders_for_the_cup_04]

Lets see Islander, I already have a bachelor's degree, double major in Finance and Business Administration. I have a high level IT portfolio with 10 years of professional web development, graphic design and project management. I've contracted and independently developed major systems for multimillion dollar companies which they are still using. I was a Business/ System's Analyst for a Fortune 500 company's financial institution right after I graduated college, afterwhich I went to law school (on a huge scholarship) to diversify my education even further. I've won multiple awards and honors for my acheivement in law school, and I barely ever go to class. Last semester I went to class a handful of times, and studied a semester's worth of material in 2 days or less for each class and maintained my scholarship GPA.

I studied international business in England. I have traveled all over this country, as well as been to Mexico multiple times and backpacked northern Europe. I have had a group of crazy friends who I love. I have friends in Australia, Tokyo, England, Germany who all have an open room for me anytime I want to visit.

I have tons of friends all over the city, of many different racial/economic/cultural backgrounds (unlike you), and I can get in a number of the top clubs in the city any night because I'm friends with many different DJs (I'm an underground House/DnB head). I just logged on to find your pathetic little "attacks" after hanging out this evening with a black gay friend of mine who I just helped plan his going away party since he is leaving to teach again in Toyko at the end of the month.

I just freeflowed the above without even thinking. I'm sure I left out many comparisons between us, but that's okay, the difference is obvious.

You saying I don't have a life is a joke. That's evidenced by the fact that you find it incomprehensible that I could even be telling the truth about this because you live such a miserable existence that it is unbelievable for you, whereas for me, it is a state that I am not fully grateful for since I can see much better for myself.


You're a liar. When I started this you were gaping at the thread I posted it in for 15 minutes and scurryed off like a coward.

You're such an idiot Sol. You, Bubba, Tayken, Clara and the rest of your band of dickheads just wasted everyones time on this shit and here you are calling for my head.

Funny how that works. Not only that you just made a lot of others who took your back on Hypercrites look like a bunch of fools.

You big Free Speech martyr you.

Either way. You can thump your chest over this when you're done. I know to you and a lot of others I'm a big fish. But that's been obvious for the last couple of months as your tiny head is very easy to get into and control (I knew you'd post a thread like this the moment I started).

You're too easy.

[Islanders_for_the_cup_04]

Since we are in a turbulent state on the forum at the moment, I just want to hear what LIb or Mike has to say about your family attacks and the forum policy before anyone takes any action.

You could have just as easily asked them in a PM.

Instead you created not one, but two threads over the matter. You're a fraud and a snake oil salesmen at best.

[Sol]

You're a liar. When I started this you were gaping at the thread I posted it in for 15 minutes and scurryed off like a coward.

You're such an idiot Sol. You, Bubba, Tayken, Clara and the rest of your band of dickheads just wasted everyones time on this shit and here you are calling for my head.

Funny how that works. Not only that you just made a lot of others who took your back on Hypercrites look like a bunch of fools.

You big Free Speech martyr you.

Either way. You can thump your chest over this when you're done. I know to you and a lot of others I'm a big fish. But that's been obvious for the last couple of months as your tiny head is very easy to get into and control (I knew you'd post a thread like this the moment I started).

You're too easy.
I really wouldn't be surprised if you had never heard of broadband. Long story short - you can leave multiple browser windows open and it doesn't matter. The aforementioned friend of mine came over while I was on DBS and he left the web site a while later when I let him use my computer - probably a lot longer than 15 minutes. It's hilarious that you would get so excited over that though ... :rolleyes:

[Islanders_for_the_cup_04]

I really wouldn't be surprised if you had never heard of broadband. Long story short - you can leave multiple browser windows open and it doesn't matter. The aforementioned friend of mine came over while I was on DBS and he left the web site a while later when I let him use my computer - probably a lot longer than 15 minutes. It's hilarious that you would get so excited over that though ... :rolleyes:


You're going to have a find a way to square this shit away with your compadres over on Hypercrites!. You wasted a ton of bandwidth over there complaining about all the abusive bannings here and complaining of the rules.

Not to mention you just made a lot of people who empathized with your cause look like fools.

You can try to bury the tracks to make it seem as if your not advocating for me to be banned though. Your also wasting your time with this thread as I've already PMed the mods telling them that I deserve a ban for this. I just set out to prove a point and you did what I expected. So did Tayken.

Bubba I expected to make an ass of himself so that's no real substantial victory there. Not that any of this really is.

Way to go Quick Draw McGraw!!!!

[Tayken]

You're going to have a find a way to square this shit away with your compadres over on Hypercrites!. You wasted a ton of bandwidth over there complaining about all the abusive bannings here and complaining of the rules.

Not to mention you just made a lot of people who empathized with your cause look like fools.

You can try to bury the tracks to make it seem as if your not advocating for me to be banned though. Your also wasting your time with this thread as I've already PMed the mods telling them that I deserve a ban for this. I just set out to prove a point and you did what I expected. So did Tayken.

Bubba I expected to make an ass of himself so that's no real substantial victory there. Not that any of this really is.

Way to go Quick Draw McGraw!!!!


I could read your pathetic attempt a mile away. You didn't suck me into anything. I've enjoyed watching you make total ass of yourself. In your little brain you can't differentiate between what is a minor infraction and what is significant.

[Islanders_for_the_cup_04]

I could read your pathetic attempt a mile away. You didn't suck me into anything. I've enjoyed watching you make total ass of yourself. In your little brain you can't differentiate between what is a minor infraction and what is significant.

Oh yes you did!!!!


Originally Posted by Tayken http://debatebothsides.com/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://debatebothsides.com/showthread.php?p=746171#post746171)
Go ahead and make an ass of yourself. I guess I'd rather have you act like an asshole than show good judgement. Obviously No. 5 will never have the guts to ban you because you are a liberal so post away and make an ass of yourself.


http://debatebothsides.com/showthread.php?t=54683&page=2

Be a good dog and bury the evidence and deny all you like.

[JackTheReaper]

I've enjoyed watching you make total ass of yourself.
We enjoy watching you do this very thing to yourself on this Take. Shit, YOU should be reported to the mods. Just for being an anus. That's bannable reason enough for me!

[Islanders_for_the_cup_04]

We enjoy watching you do this very thing to yourself on this Take. Shit, YOU should be reported to the mods. Just for being an anus. That's bannable reason enough for me!

You think this is funny you havent seen the tip of the iceberg. You should head over to Hypercrites and read all the bitchings about the bannings that take place over here.

Sol and Tayken are two posters that are worth taking note of. The two free speech martyrs of DBS.

If I'm Lib and AVoice I'd get my jollys worth reading through the pages these two hucksters loaded up.

[Sol]

Not to mention you just made a lot of people who empathized with your cause look like fools.

I just set out to prove a point and you did what I expected.
I don't understand what you mean by either statement.

I don't recall ever saying that people should be able to attack other poster's families. Infact many times I recall including it as a rule that should be kept at the forum:

1.Threatening or wishing harm against other posters or their families, insulting or defaming a poster's family members or referring to them unacceptably to the poster, or threatening or plotting against public figures, are not permitted.
Fine.http://www.debatebothsides.com/showpost.php?p=728960&postcount=33



I think you have confused this with my belief that a brand new post that attacks a poster should not be a bannable offense. That I stand by as I always have. So if you had wanted to correctly execute your obvious little "trap" that anyone could see from a mile away, you should have started a new thread that made a joke about me - like taking a picture of something and making a joke about it and applying it to me. But I'd never say you should get banned for that anyways so it would be pointless.

Infact if they banned you for it, I'd be fighting to get you unbanned.

[Bubba2]

Oh yes you did!!!!




http://debatebothsides.com/showthread.php?t=54683&page=2

Be a good dog and bury the evidence and deny all you like.

Bye FUCKWIT!!!

See ya' in TWO WEEKS!!!:D

[Islanders_for_the_cup_04]

I don't understand what you mean by either statement.

I don't recall ever saying that people should be able to attack other poster's families. Infact many times I recall including it as a rule that should be kept at the forum:

http://www.debatebothsides.com/showpost.php?p=728960&postcount=33



I think you have confused this with my belief that a brand new post that attacks a poster should not be a bannable offense. That I stand by as I always have. So if you had wanted to correctly execute your obvious little "trap" that anyone could see from a mile away, you should have started a new thread that made a joke about me - like taking a picture of something and making a joke about it and applying it to me. But I'd never say you should get banned for that anyways so it would be pointless.

Infact if they banned you for it, I'd be fighting to get you unbanned.

Sorry dumby.

On hypercrites you played a game that anything should go. You played a different game over here.

You also seem to have a problem with the attacking families part and it was just fine when you got away with it for as long as you did. It wasn't until you started getting banned for it that you threw a hissy fit with the mods and ran over to hypercrites complaing that you'd been kicked off here.

Go sell it to someone else.

[Tayken]

Oh yes you did!!!!




http://debatebothsides.com/showthread.php?t=54683&page=2

Be a good dog and bury the evidence and deny all you like.

LOL. That is your evidence? I was dead on. That has to hurt when you shoot yourself like that?

[Islanders_for_the_cup_04]

Bye FUCKWIT!!!

See ya' in TWO WEEKS!!!:D
You shold be taking the boat out here along with Clara. You of all people complaining about your free speech.

[Tayken]

You could have just as easily asked them in a PM.

Instead you created not one, but two threads over the matter. You're a fraud and a snake oil salesmen at best.

In the PM, No. 5 would tell him she doesn't see any abuse and that she isn't going to do anything about it.

[Tayken]

You think this is funny you havent seen the tip of the iceberg. You should head over to Hypercrites and read all the bitchings about the bannings that take place over here.

Sol and Tayken are two posters that are worth taking note of. The two free speech martyrs of DBS.

If I'm Lib and AVoice I'd get my jollys worth reading through the pages these two hucksters loaded up.

So then you agree Lib was professional when he deleted Mike's post, where Mike didn't break any rules? I was trying to treat you with some respect. My bad. You are still the asshole that you've always been.

[Tayken]

I don't understand what you mean by either statement.

I don't recall ever saying that people should be able to attack other poster's families. Infact many times I recall including it as a rule that should be kept at the forum:

http://www.debatebothsides.com/showpost.php?p=728960&postcount=33



I think you have confused this with my belief that a brand new post that attacks a poster should not be a bannable offense. That I stand by as I always have. So if you had wanted to correctly execute your obvious little "trap" that anyone could see from a mile away, you should have started a new thread that made a joke about me - like taking a picture of something and making a joke about it and applying it to me. But I'd never say you should get banned for that anyways so it would be pointless.

Infact if they banned you for it, I'd be fighting to get you unbanned.

Sol I told him this too. His little pea brain is too small to understand the difference.

[Islanders_for_the_cup_04]

So then you agree Lib was professional when he deleted Mike's post, where Mike didn't break any rules? I was trying to treat you with some respect. My bad. You are still the asshole that you've always been.

I guess I am. So are you.

When you broke a rule I wasn't hopping up and down for you to get banned. I may be an asshole but at least I'm a consistent asshole.

Can't say the same for you.

[Tayken]

I guess I am. So are you.

When you broke a rule I wasn't hopping up and down for you to get banned. I may be an asshole but at least I'm a consistent asshole.

Can't say the same for you.

Let's see I got banned for publicly criticizing Voice's gestapo tactics. You have yet to be banned. You have made derogatory statements about my mother and about Sol's mother. You don't have the intelligence to really see the difference of what this was all about.

[JackTheReaper]

You think this is funny
Not really. I was just directing my comment to Tayken because he inserted himself like the useless fool he is into a conversation between you and sol. No one else was involved in this dispute, really, and he just entered the thread to cause trouble (like he always does in this forum).

And it was not meant to be funny. Tayken IS an anus. No one can respect him. Not only because he doesn't respect anyone else except himself and Bush. But also because he's an anus. A bush shit anus on top of that.

[Sol]

Sorry dumby.

On hypercrites you played a game that anything should go. You played a different game over here.

You also seem to have a problem with the attacking families part and it was just fine when you got away with it for as long as you did. It wasn't until you started getting banned for it that you threw a hissy fit with the mods and ran over to hypercrites complaing that you'd been kicked off here.

Go sell it to someone else.
I really don't understand where you are coming from. I wouldn't mind a complete free speech forum since nothing really offends me. I understand, however that most posters here don't want to include family attacks, which is why when I was parlaying my version of the rules I left the family attacks as bannable. I clarified that in this thread when I gave my input:
1.Threatening or wishing harm against other posters or their families, insulting or defaming a poster's family members or referring to them unacceptably to the poster, or threatening or plotting against public figures, are not permitted.
Fine.http://www.debatebothsides.com/showpost.php?p=728960&postcount=33


What you are doing right now is askew from the changes I have been advocating recently and doesn't really make sense.

[Mr.88]

Are those actually your quotes?

Did you say those things?

I gotta say I was pretty shocked too.

I've had my issues with Islander but he sure as hell never said anything like that to me............and somehow I missed all these quotes.

For the record though, I agree with Sol..........I'd have no problems with "family attacks" (they're just words after all) but the majority REALLY dosen't want it, so I'll abide. It's not like I NEED them or anything.

But so help me God, Hunter if you bring up my beavers one more time........................:D

[Islanders_for_the_cup_04]

Sol I told him this too. His little pea brain is too small to understand the difference.

Islander you're making an ass out of yourself. In Sol's proposed rules, family members are still to be kept out of it. Why do you use such extremes to try to make your point? It only makes you look insincere.


Sol's response was "Fine".

Why don't you ask the mods to go through a laundry list of all the times Sol has been banned. That "attacking family" rule he's broken more than once.

Sol's beef with AVoice is with BANNING;

Lib and Mike are good moderators.

In the interest of helping this forum - you need to step down.

It's a never ending cycle. You go out of control with your moving, deleting, banning; then you hide out for a while. You lay low, wait for everything to blow over, and then start banning people again. It's said that you put so much design into how to get away with abusing your moderator powers.

You said this job doesn't get you any respect and just causes you trouble - I have a simple solution - stop being a moderator! You aren't doing anyone any favors by being one. Infact you are causing Lib a lot of problems, along with alienating a lot of posters and creating a huge division here. Please just let go of your powers and become a normal poster again, for the sake of this board.

http://debatebothsides.com/showthread.php?t=54683

[Mr.88]

OK, I just realized I have Sol's position wrong.

My bad dude.

The post above DOES contain my position but not Sol's.

[Islanders_for_the_cup_04]

OK, I just realized I have Sol's position wrong.

My bad dude.

The post above DOES contain my position but not Sol's.

You should visit Hypercrites for an extended version of Sol's "vision".

You'll get a kick out of that.

[Sol]

I was trying to treat you with some respect. My bad.
Even after he dedicated countless hours of his life to making up that occult sun-worshipper Nazi story about me to try and turn everyone here against me, I still tried to treat him with respect at various points.

I even gave him a very sincere and long appology in HC chat one night (if you can believe it, ME of all people), since some of the jokes I made about him after his initial salvo against me seemed to hurt him a lot and I kind of felt bad.

I've found he will act normally for a while, but you never know, he just goes crazy again and starts making up tons of stories and randomly lashing out against people. You really can't take the guy seriously because if you try and interact with him on his own level he would drive you crazy. Like trying to convince the Son of Sam that his dog wasn't 2,000 years old.

My best advice is to just take him with a grain of salt, and enjoy the humor you can get out of interacting with him. And don't make the mistake of feeling bad for him when you make jokes that drive him crazy, because he flips in and out of 100% pure malice mode like a little kid rapidly flicking a lightswitch.

[Sol]

OK, I just realized I have Sol's position wrong.

My bad dude.

The post above DOES contain my position but not Sol's.

I'm not sure what you are referencing, but if it's this:

For the record though, I agree with Sol..........I'd have no problems with "family attacks" (they're just words after all) but the majority REALLY dosen't want it, so I'll abide. It's not like I NEED them or anything.

That is my position.

On the one hand you and Hunter's shock at Islander saying those things is a good sign that no one reads Islander's crusade against me.

On the other hand, you guys have no idea the amount of time and energy Islander, the man, spends creating fantastic designs and stories about me to try and turn people against me.

Fortunately for me most of the posters here require a high burden of proof when Islander accuses me of being a high level officer in the Hippopotomus God 21st Centruy Nazi-Cyborg cult.

[Islanders_for_the_cup_04]

Lib, all of this has totally gotten out of control.

Please give me some feedback here. I'm still hanging on to the idea that DBS will go back to how it was when people could post entertaining material, moderators didn't ban people for personal reasons or inconsistently apply the rules (i.e. when it was just you and Mike), and people in the community were allowed to ADDRESS each other in a thread.

Posts like these:

http://www.debatebothsides.com/showthread.php?t=40360
http://www.debatebothsides.com/showthread.php?t=26529
http://www.debatebothsides.com/showthread.php?t=37237
http://www.debatebothsides.com/showthread.php?t=31451
http://www.debatebothsides.com/showthread.php?t=32694
http://www.debatebothsides.com/showthread.php?t=34993

Which were fun, but would now get me banned. I've only made a handful of them over the past year, but just knowing that I'm not allowed to post what I want makes all the difference in the world. Or that a significant percentage of my "work" and content will be deleted or moved. It takes 95% of the value of the board out for me.

Just tell me it's over and I'll stop causing disturbances and leave. It's the hope that things can return to normal that you dangle in front of me which makes me fight, Lib. Please just tell me A Voice is here to stay, the rules are never going to change back, and that's the way it will be, and I'll end my advocacy and let the people who PM me fight their own battles or leave on their own accord. I just care a lot about your forum, and hope you'll make the decision for freedom of speech.

Best Regards!
Sol


http://www.hypercrites.com/forums/index.php?act=Search&nav=au&CODE=show&searchid=c9ffecab0eae8b2fad7a7186e7c2ced8&search_in=posts&result_type=posts

Sol thinks we shouldn't follow the rules;


Yeah that's fucking bullshit. I feel bad for DBS as a community - it's going down the tubes and it's pretty much all because of the moderators. Most people are not happy, and the people who actually talk and listen seem to be drifting away, leaving only the lame newsbots who "follow the new rules". Bullshit.


Again Sol states his problems are with BANNINGS


Maybe you missed the problem -

Mike is less mature than a high school girl, twice as insecure, has the power to censor and ban people at DBS, and judging from his deletion/ban speed, sits there all day long waiting to pounce. Talking about it at DBS is pretty much pointless, as he will not only ban you, but do everything possible to prevent the cordial PM communication with Lib and others that has otherwise always been allowed when you are banned.

I never paid much attention to him until he started targeting me, but I've gathered over the past couple months that he is equally regarded by Liberal and Conservative posters as a shitty moderator, and an otherwise dim bulb. I guess we are going to see if Lib will finally do something about it.

I don't really see why anyone would choose to use a high school analogy in defense of a grown man who is so childish and emotional that he abuses his moderating powers for getting called a "dickhole" in a private message.

[Islanders_for_the_cup_04]

Nice articulation of these matters. I'm only making something of it because this is not the way things used to be and it's still saveable I think. There's no reason to destroy a perfectly good forum, adult and supposedly mature forum, by giving a couple pathetic ego-damaged Napoloens the power to censor their peers and/or seniors.

I think the most annoying thing about it is how all of the sub-mods swear up and down that they don't care about their powers. Yet for some reason they all the sudden seem to find abundant reasons to pull the trigger on others about 10x as much as Lib ever did. Disingenuous, pathetic and childish.


This one is a fucking classic.

[Islanders_for_the_cup_04]

LOL

:D


Haha thanks Linc, and thanks for the support everyone. I was kind of expecting to get flamed honestly.

I never paid much attention to Mike before he turned into a obsessive little weiner moderator-boy. Apparently his shittiness is well known by people around here though.

What makes it weird is Lib has sent me messages that he appreciates having me there and what not, and then doesn't do anything when his mods pull a bunch of "literary theory" bullshit to stretch the rules in a totally outrageous manner just to ban me, delete posts I put a lot of time / thought / research into, and otherwise just abuse their power.

This forum is obviously the ultimate in well-moderated on the entire internet - a true marketplace of ideas. That's why I come here to post and chat so much. I went to DBS for the same reasons; but it's increasing becoming more and more DU or Freeper like, where the content of what you say can get you banned, so your dangerous or "annoying" ideas can't be heard.

Anyways, thanks again everyone. I've been very happy to learn people are understanding my voice a lot better than at first, and don't consider me as much of a dick. http://www.hypercrites.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif

[Islanders_for_the_cup_04]

Let's see I got banned for publicly criticizing Voice's gestapo tactics. You have yet to be banned. You have made derogatory statements about my mother and about Sol's mother. You don't have the intelligence to really see the difference of what this was all about.

As long as we live under the boot of what you decide is good speech and bad speech.

Now I get it.

[Sol]

What's your point Islander?

This thread is about the fact that you are making multiple posts attacking my family, and now Tayken's family too:Was Tayken's mother able to get the flute in her pussy? (http://www.debatebothsides.com/showpost.php?p=746182&postcount=33)Family attacks have been the most consistently enforced bannable offense on this forum. I have never said I want to change the rules to allow family attacks here, and have supported it in my recent opinions (http://www.debatebothsides.com/showpost.php?p=728960&postcount=33) about what the rules should be.

You are trying to say that just because I said I am not offended by personal or family attacks and wouldn't mind if there were no rules at this forum, that somehow this means that I want to change the rules here so that family attacks are not bannable offenses. It's very clear this is NOT what I am saying or have said, and that you are just attempting every word-play stretch possible to jam words into my mouth.

[two_iron]

Lets see Islander, I already have a bachelor's degree, double major in Finance and Business Administration. I have a high level IT portfolio with 10 years of professional web development, graphic design and project management. I've contracted and independently developed major systems for multimillion dollar companies which they are still using. I was a Business/ System's Analyst for a Fortune 500 company's financial institution right after I graduated college, afterwhich I went to law school (on a huge scholarship) to diversify my education even further. I've won multiple awards and honors for my acheivement in law school, and I barely ever go to class. Last semester I went to class a handful of times, and studied a semester's worth of material in 2 days or less for each class and maintained my scholarship GPA.

I studied international business in England. I have traveled all over this country, as well as been to Mexico multiple times and backpacked northern Europe. I have had a group of crazy friends who I love. I have friends in Australia, Tokyo, England, Germany who all have an open room for me anytime I want to visit.

I have tons of friends all over the city, of many different racial/economic/cultural backgrounds (unlike you), and I can get in a number of the top clubs in the city any night because I'm friends with many different DJs (I'm an underground House/DnB head). I just logged on to find your pathetic little "attacks" after hanging out this evening with a black gay friend of mine who I just helped plan his going away party since he is leaving to teach again in Toyko at the end of the month.

I just freeflowed the above without even thinking. I'm sure I left out many comparisons between us, but that's okay, the difference is obvious.

You saying I don't have a life is a joke. That's evidenced by the fact that you find it incomprehensible that I could even be telling the truth about this because you live such a miserable existence that it is unbelievable for you, whereas for me, it is a state that I am not fully grateful for since I can see much better for myself.

Sol, not to put words in Islander's mouth, but I think his position is this: You say all that but have you really "done it all" when you've never actually A. Schmoozed with Al Franken and B. Operated a fruit stand on the turnpike. Tokyo, Schmokyo.

WB Tayken!! A lot of us didn't appreciate the No. 2 that No. 5 did on you. Funny stuff!

[Islanders_for_the_cup_04]

What's your point Islander?

This thread is about the fact that you are making multiple posts attacking my family, and now Tayken's family too:Family attacks have been the most consistently enforced bannable offense on this forum. I have never said I want to change the rules to allow family attacks here, and have supported it in my recent opinions (http://www.debatebothsides.com/showpost.php?p=728960&postcount=33) about what the rules should be.

You are trying to say that just because I said I am not offended by personal or family attacks and wouldn't mind if there were no rules at this forum, that somehow this means that I want to change the rules here so that family attacks are not bannable offenses. It's very clear this is NOT what I am saying or have said, and that you are just attempting every word-play stretch possible to jam words into my mouth.Attacks on family are the most consistently enforced rule?

No they're not. For months you had a field day attacking my wife. I didn't complain about and I rarely complained to the mods except in cases where I came to the forum in a bad mood. Those complaints are rare.

Fritz got away with that for a long time too.

You're making that case to the wrong poster. You also threw a hissy fit when the mods took you to taks for it. either way, there are lots of posts here where you were complaining that Free Speech has been restiricted on this forum.

You also tryed to advocate that the mods come down on the side of free speech not to mention complained of little napoleans running around here.

Now you're here looking to restrict MY Free Speech and playing little Naploean in the process. Since when do you get to define Free Speech for others especialy when you complain of getting banned and your Free Speech restricted.

Here's the deal, if you're going to complain about the mods banning people don't start whining when you want someone else banned. If your going to complain when you get banned for an offense don't complain when your rivals do the same to you.

You're a hypocrite as well as Tayken on this issue and you have been far from consistent on it.

Sorry.

You're a baby on this one.

[Sol]

Sol, not to put words in Islander's mouth, but I think his position is this: You say all that but have you really "done it all" when you've never actually A. Schmoozed with Al Franken and B. Operated a fruit stand on the turnpike. Tokyo, Schmokyo.

WB Tayken!! A lot of us didn't appreciate the No. 2 that No. 5 did on you. Funny stuff!
I guess I'll just never live up to his standards. :eek:

[Islanders_for_the_cup_04]

I guess I'll just never live up to his standards. :eek:

You think you're going to set the speed limit for everyone else. You're abso-fucking-lutely nutz.

Don't yap up a Free Speech game out of one side of your mouth and play Little Napolean out the other.

I notice you never had much to say about this


Here is a funny gif of No. 5 playing with her dog.

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e382/Cruz2008/thisisfunny.gif


Here's the deal with you frauds. You walk around playing victims of the mods for breaking rules as you see fit but when it comes to your political rivals it's another story. You're critisizm of those that felt Tayken was justifiably banned have been duly noted.

Not to mention your bitchings when your banned for an infraction. I also think it's hilarious that Mike endorsed the above Gif and then questions whether I've broken any rules.

I can't make this shit up. It's fucking impossible.

[Sol]

Or we could give them all a good wiff of your mother's rancid love drippings.http://www.debatebothsides.com/showpost.php?p=746128&postcount=33

I see you've been downwind of Sol's mother's vagina.http://www.debatebothsides.com/showpost.php?p=746136&postcount=38

I have an idea.

I think any mod that gets out of line should be forced to sniff your mother's vagina.

Problem solvedhttp://www.debatebothsides.com/showpost.php?p=746133&postcount=4

Why should I respect what he wants?

His mother certainly doesn't respect what I want. Afterall just last week I told her to put her vagina away and she took out half of downtown Boston with it.

Oh, and this makes you look good?

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e382/Cruz2008/thisisfunny.gifhttp://www.debatebothsides.com/showpost.php?p=746150&postcount=9



Does your mother play with a dog like that?

I'll bet Sol's mother plays with dogs like that. Then again I'll bet they go through lots of dogs in that household considering she got that big fucking hermit crab living all up in there.http://www.debatebothsides.com/showpost.php?p=746162&postcount=11

I did but the crabs in Sol's mother's vagina ate it. It was really creepy. There's one that lives inside it that's like one of those hermit crabs you see on the beach. I betcha it snapped off Sol's pecker on the way out.

Fucking gross.http://www.debatebothsides.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=746144



This is what you posted so far.


Now, you really did a number on yourself as usual Islander. (1) You shown everyone that you have some some revolting fantasy-fiction floating around in your head. (2) You've repeatedly and flagrantly committed a bannable offense and flaunted it (3) You totally flubbed your point up by picking the wrong rule to break - LOL. You picked a rule that I have recently (to boot) stated that I support leaving in place, since most people in the community do and it's not an issue to me. Nice one genius! :rolleyes:

[Islanders_for_the_cup_04]

http://www.debatebothsides.com/showpost.php?p=746128&postcount=33

http://www.debatebothsides.com/showpost.php?p=746136&postcount=38

http://www.debatebothsides.com/showpost.php?p=746133&postcount=4

http://www.debatebothsides.com/showpost.php?p=746150&postcount=9



http://www.debatebothsides.com/showpost.php?p=746162&postcount=11

http://www.debatebothsides.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=746144



This is what you posted so far.


Now, you really did a number on yourself as usual Islander. (1) You shown everyone that you have some some revolting fantasy-fiction floating around in your head. (2) You've repeatedly and flagrantly committed a bannable offense and flaunted it (3) You totally flubbed your point up by picking the wrong rule to break - LOL. You picked a rule that I have recently (to boot) stated that I support leaving in place, since most people in the community do and it's not an issue to me. Nice one genius! :rolleyes:

Yes I did.

I broke the rules and deserve a time out for it.

See.

I'm not debating that fact.

Dumby.

Yes, you PICKED a rule that was already in place. And by your rules of the game I picked a rule that was already in place (spamming and that's it).

The difference is I don't get to pick the rules and decide who it's justifiable to ban for which one. I am also not pretending to be altruistic picking the rules of Free Speech when I say this board should endorse Free Speech.

Based on what?

Your kinglyness gets to decide for eveyone else and what rules apply to whom?

You're a fucking jackass talking out of both sides of your mouth; A fucking fake Jesus on a soap box.

You picked that rule three weeks ago while playing the Free Speech game against the mods at another site.

What's Free Speech you fucking idiot? When you talk an anything goes game one minute and think you get to decide which rules to apply and whom to apply them to?

As a matter of fact, not only did you rail about that, you've bitched about the act of the mods BANNING people.

[Sol]

Yes I did.

I broke the rules and deserve a time out for it.

See.

I'm not debating that fact.
If you ever decide to post a brand new thread attacking me, and you get banned, I will petition to have you unbanned. Also, if you are ever secretly threatened with a ban by a moderator for purely personal reasons, which is inappropriate, I will also stand up for you out of principle.

For some reason, however, you chose to put emphasis on a rule that every poster here agrees should be a banable offense. This was not a political statement on your part as much as a revolting bunch of posts you made in flagrant violation of the rules that everyone agrees upon, for absolutely no reason.

[Islanders_for_the_cup_04]

If you ever decide to post a brand new thread attacking me, and you get banned, I will petition to have you unbanned. Also, if you are ever secretly threatened with a ban by a moderator for purely personal reasons, which is inappropriate, I will also stand up for you out of principle.

For some reason, however, you chose to put emphasis on a rule that every poster here agrees should be a banable offense. This was not a political statement on your part as much as a revolting bunch of posts you made in flagrant violation of the rules that everyone agrees upon, for absolutely no reason.


A rule that you've famously broken as you see fit. Not mention the hissy fits that ensued when you're banned for it. :rolleyes:

You don't speak for everyone.

Like I said, you think in your kinglyness that you get to pick the rules and their enforcement for everyone else. I'd also like a working definition of this free speech you held so dealy to your heart.

[Islanders_for_the_cup_04]

Proof positive that you are a complete fucking idiot.

I agree with basically everything you say here. I think people should be able to self moderate. Basically this all comes down to people not using their IGNORE feature, and trying to get people removed from the site instead.

Also, for #3, that doesn't really matter anymore. For some reason Lib has really snapped after the Clara thing (I can understand his frustration to an extent). But he has basically made A Voice the "cat's paw" or "hatchet man" at the forum - and silently encourages (or so it seems) her heavy handed moderating and discrimination against certain "trouble posters."


But most importantly:

We are at a major crossroads in DBS history right now. Lib can either turn this forum back to how it was during the AO days, where it was a real free-speech battle forum, new posters showed up and we actually had an audience of lurkers, where the fights were entertaining and not genuinely hostile, and the community was a lot more interactive . . .

Or

Him and A Voice can turn this into a Micro-DU forum (IOW, oppressive moderating against non-Liberals, except with 1/1000th of the amount of posters as DU). If they do this it looks like they will do it quietly: by constantly moving and deleting threads from rancorous posters they don't like, and throwing some bans in there when they can make the stretch - eventually frustrating and driving out most of the "other Side" opinion which causes debate here. And then this place will just be a repository (more accurately, suppository) of cross linked copy & pasted news articles, with some 1-liners sprinkled in.

We'll see what he does in the next few days.

The first question is if he bans Islander for the flagrant attacks on Tayken and my family. If not, it's going to signal that Liberal posters are protected here, and roudy conservatives and independents will not be protected and will have to take a hike.

We finally reached the breaking point. I enjoy posting with you Jack, so I really hope Lib chooses to keep us rowdies on board.


I can't believe you just wrote this.....

[Sol]

A funny idiosyncrasy of your insanity is how you spam pages and pages of a poster's old posts, but then say very little to nothing in the way of explanation, disproof or why you posted them. As though the crazy theories which mal-formulate in your brain are going to magically osmosis their way into everyone else's understanding. Really, a telling characteristic of your close-minded one dimensional lunacy.

[PassingThru]

Well, Islander, it seems adjudication and sentencing for your offense took place at approximately 2:57 AM on Monday, 2/12/07.

I wonder how long a banning you'll serve for making your cogent point. I feel confident, however long it is, you won't spend it gnashing teeth and decrying "unfair!".
.

[Lib]

Well, Islander, it seems adjudication and sentencing for your offense took place at approximately 2:57 AM on Monday, 2/12/07.

I wonder how long a banning you'll serve for making your cogent point. I feel confident, however long it is, you won't spend it gnashing teeth and decrying "unfair!".
.

A week, and you won't hear a whimper of complaint, he's a stand-up guy. I don't want to suspend anyone but there was no choice.

[Neurobürger]

A week, and you won't hear a whimper of complaint, he's a stand-up guy. I don't want to suspend anyone but there was no choice.

lately i've found myself rather addicted to this place. it may actually take something like a suspension to pry me away

heh

:eek:

[Lib]

lately i've found myself rather addicted to this place. it may actually take something like a suspension to pry me away

heh

:eek:

"Suicide-by-cop" is not permitted here either. It's on the hidden list of rules doncha know? :D

[Greenrage]

http://www.debatebothsides.com/showpost.php?p=746128&postcount=33

http://www.debatebothsides.com/showpost.php?p=746136&postcount=38

http://www.debatebothsides.com/showpost.php?p=746133&postcount=4

http://www.debatebothsides.com/showpost.php?p=746150&postcount=9



http://www.debatebothsides.com/showpost.php?p=746162&postcount=11

http://www.debatebothsides.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=746144



Tayken's family too now:


http://www.debatebothsides.com/showpost.php?p=746182&postcount=33




Lib or Mike, can you clarify - Are these the kind of attacks on someone's family that are bannable?


Sol, whining like a pussy again.

[Greenrage]

What's your point Islander?

This thread is about the fact that you are making multiple posts attacking my family, and now Tayken's family too:.

This from the guy who started a whole thread in praise of his gun.

[Drew]

This from the guy who started a whole thread in praise of his gun.

He did it just to spite you..........sounds like it worked.

[Roofdog]

Although Islander has attacked me many times, I never brought up his wife in any negative way.

He is a smart guy, yet a dope. I just wonder about his "obsession" with stinky vaginas....

[Tayken]

Although Islander has attacked me many times, I never brought up his wife in any negative way.

He is a smart guy, yet a dope. I just wonder about his "obsession" with stinky vaginas....

I never did either Roofdog. Islander thinks in his little pea brain that he made some point, when all he has done is shown he has absolutely no class or character.

[Jitoen Le Tur]

Islander making attacks on my family

When I read the headline I thought he might have said, "Sol is married to his gun."

[Macman]

Although Islander has attacked me many times, I never brought up his wife in any negative way.

He is a smart guy, yet a dope. I just wonder about his "obsession" with stinky vaginas....

When he posted that bit about vaginas, I suspected about the undertone of what he was really trying to do.



I was right.

[Sol]

I wonder how long a banning you'll serve for making your cogent point. .
Yes he really nailed me to the wall about the hypocracy of me advocating that the family attack rule be removed - Oh wait, I never did. LOL

[JackTheReaper]

Something must be wrong with this forum, as sol says, if a guy gets banned for being in a verbal match with another guy. So silly, this banning business.

Rather than a ban, couldn't this have been more easily resolved by moving the thread into the Off Topic forum where it actually belonged? I can't take sides with one over the other because I like both Islanders and sol. But, the entire thread was NOT "a lively discussion of the issues" as this forum SOMEtimes prides itself on beoing.

Let them duke it out off of the Current Events, but let them also post upon REAL issues of the day, instead of banning them for a week or whatever length of time from all of the forum as a whole.

Just my opinion, but the banning is always WORSE than the crime, in this case at least. They weren't hurting anybody else. Why do the mods need to intervene in something like this???

[Sol]

Something must be wrong with this forum, as sol says, if a guy gets banned for being in a verbal match with another guy. So silly, this banning business.

Rather than a ban, couldn't this have been more easily resolved by moving the thread into the Off Topic forum where it actually belonged? I can't take sides with one over the other because I like both Islanders and sol. But, the entire thread was NOT "a lively discussion of the issues" as this forum SOMEtimes prides itself on beoing.

Let them duke it out off of the Current Events, but let them also post upon REAL issues of the day, instead of banning them for a week or whatever length of time from all of the forum as a whole.

Just my opinion, but the banning is always WORSE than the crime, in this case at least. They weren't hurting anybody else. Why do the mods need to intervene in something like this???
Well he was posting the "mother" attacks against me and Tayken on many different threads. I just made this to let the mods know.

Also, in case you didn't catch it - he was trying to get banned because he mistakenly believed that I was against the rule that prohibits attacks against other poster's families. Which I've stated on record before that I am not. LOL

[Michael McGonagle]

Pot calling the Kettle Black... you can dish it out, but you can't take it...

Oh, and I love how the little child in you whined about only wanting to be moderated by those of YOUR choosing, and not being able to live up to the SIMPLE standards of ettiquiet...

What a whiner...

http://www.debatebothsides.com/showpost.php?p=746128&postcount=33

http://www.debatebothsides.com/showpost.php?p=746136&postcount=38

http://www.debatebothsides.com/showpost.php?p=746133&postcount=4

http://www.debatebothsides.com/showpost.php?p=746150&postcount=9



http://www.debatebothsides.com/showpost.php?p=746162&postcount=11

http://www.debatebothsides.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=746144



Tayken's family too now:


http://www.debatebothsides.com/showpost.php?p=746182&postcount=33




Lib or Mike, can you clarify - Are these the kind of attacks on someone's family that are bannable?

[Sol]

A week, and you won't hear a whimper of complaint, he's a stand-up guy. I don't want to suspend anyone but there was no choice.
Lib,

What I asked for in this thread, in the FIRST POST was:

Lib or Mike, can you clarify - Are these the kind of attacks on someone's family that are bannable?

All I asked for from the beginning was a clarification of the rules and what the banning would be. Many posters have expressed an interest in some kind of "standard" time off for certain infractions. I am interested in this standard too, which is why I asked for an answer, not immediate action.

Islander immediately started trying to cover up the fact that I have stated before that I am FOR the rule against family attacks, once he realized his little tantrum was pointless.

Here is the evidence: http://www.debatebothsides.com/showpost.php?p=728960&postcount=33

1.Threatening or wishing harm against other posters or their families, insulting or defaming a poster's family members or referring to them unacceptably to the poster, or threatening or plotting against public figures, are not permitted.
Fine.

Instead of offering me the explanation of the rules I asked for, and the same courtesy you have extended other posters, you jumped the gun because you wanted to be a part of Islander's odd crusade, which does not stand against any belief of mine that I have previously expressed. This is pretty clear, so instead you are trying to obfuscate and smear the fact that

1) I only brought the posts to your attention, and ASKED what the punishment was.
2) I have stated in the past that I am FOR the rules against family attacks.

Now you are on other forums playing it up.

Very dishonest of you.

[Greenrage]

Pot calling the Kettle Black... you can dish it out, but you can't take it...

Oh, and I love how the little child in you whined about only wanting to be moderated by those of YOUR choosing, and not being able to live up to the SIMPLE standards of ettiquiet...

What a whiner...


Exactly. Sol is constantly whining about alleged censorship of his attack threads, and now he's suddenly sensitive to perceived slights by Islander. Boo friggin hoo.

[Greenrage]

He did it just to spite you..........sounds like it worked.

Then he's got no basis to complain about Islander.

[A Voice]

Bottom line - whatever we do Sol will not be happy.

I've moved this thread from CU to AR where it belongs.

As Moderators we have been indulging Sol in spite of attacking Moderators before Lib declared February Kick the Moderator month and posting threads in the wrong place.

Sol for these acts you are getting 3 days off. Hopefully in that time this manic episode will have passed and you will calm down a bit.

By all means say hello to that brain trust you've got over at HC.

As far as I am considered any dialog about the rules with Sol is a waste of time. He is interested in getting attention not improving the board. If Lib or Madresfield feel otherwise they are welcome to waste as much time as they like on him.

A Voice

Editted, I just found Sol's apology for the double post. Now I don't believe he is sincere for a second but I will left his ban.

[Neurobürger]

:eek:





Lord, this house is goin' to get raided, yes, sir!

Thirty days in jail with my back turned to the wall, turned to the wall,
Thirty days in jail with my back turned to the wall;
Look here, Mr. Jail-keeper, put another gal in my stall.

I don't mind bein' in jail, but I got to stay there so long, so long,
I don't mind bein' in jail, but I got to stay there so long, so long,
When every friend I have is done shook hands and gone.

Jail House Blues (http://www.heptune.com/jailhous.html)

(Bessie Smith and Clarence Williams)


Transcribed from vocals by Bessie Smith, recorded September 21, 1923.
From Bessie Smith: 1923; The Chronological Classics 761.

[william p. homans]

Something must be wrong with this forum, as sol says, if a guy gets banned for being in a verbal match with another guy. So silly, this banning business.

Rather than a ban, couldn't this have been more easily resolved by moving the thread into the Off Topic forum where it actually belonged? I can't take sides with one over the other because I like both Islanders and sol. But, the entire thread was NOT "a lively discussion of the issues" as this forum SOMEtimes prides itself on beoing.

Let them duke it out off of the Current Events, but let them also post upon REAL issues of the day, instead of banning them for a week or whatever length of time from all of the forum as a whole.

Just my opinion, but the banning is always WORSE than the crime, in this case at least. They weren't hurting anybody else. Why do the mods need to intervene in something like this???

Hey now, that's a helluva good idea, Jack! And Mods. and all us kholopy. How BOUt just moving attack threads to "off-topic"? Just like Israel could do with Hezbollah Katyusha batteries if America would lend them the use of our Landsat system??

And thanks, Jack. "Mr. Congenial", eh?

BWAAAH--HA--HA--HA--HAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!


WPH from OKC

[Sol]

Exactly. Sol is constantly whining about alleged censorship of his attack threads, and now he's suddenly sensitive to perceived slights by Islander. Boo friggin hoo.
1) Lib asked me which rules I supported not that long ago.
2) I told Lib I supported the rule against attacking poster's families (http://www.debatebothsides.com/showpost.php?p=728960&postcount=33).
3) Islander attacked my family, mistakenly thinking I was pro-"family attacks" and that he would "catch me" in some kind of hypocracy.
4) I never asked that Islander be banned, just what the punishment is, in anticipation of further dialogue over his actions and out of concern for the kind of punishment standards Lib is going to implement here.
5) Lib jumped the gun and banned Islander to go along with his little erroneous-assumption-based "martyr ploy" - and then said that he had made a point and was "exposing hypocracy."


Now everyone who is typically against me here is trying to mop up the failure that was his "strategy" by making up lies that are about as easy to disprove as "Iraq had WMDs."

[A Voice]

1) Lib asked me which rules I supported not that long ago.
2) I told Lib I supported the rule against attacking poster's families (http://www.debatebothsides.com/showpost.php?p=728960&postcount=33).
3) Islander attacked my family, mistakenly thinking I was pro-"family attacks" and that he would "catch me" in some kind of hypocracy.
4) I never asked that Islander be banned, just what the punishment is, in anticipation of further dialogue over his actions and out of concern for the kind of punishment standards Lib is going to implement here.
5) Lib jumped the gun and banned Islander to go along with his little erroneous-assumption-based "martyr ploy" - and then said that he had made a point and was "exposing hypocracy."


Now everyone who is typically against me here is trying to mop up the failure that was his "strategy" by making up lies that are about as easy to disprove as "Iraq had WMDs."

Re: #4

Him and A Voice can turn this into a Micro-DU forum (IOW, oppressive moderating against non-Liberals, except with 1/1000th of the amount of posters as DU). If they do this it looks like they will do it quietly: by constantly moving and deleting threads from rancorous posters they don't like, and throwing some bans in there when they can make the stretch - eventually frustrating and driving out most of the "other Side" opinion which causes debate here. And then this place will just be a repository (more accurately, suppository) of cross linked copy & pasted news articles, with some 1-liners sprinkled in.

We'll see what he does in the next few days.

The first question is if he bans Islander for the flagrant attacks on Tayken and my family. If not, it's going to signal that Liberal posters are protected here, and roudy conservatives and independents will not be protected and will have to take a hike.

We finally reached the breaking point. I enjoy posting with you Jack, so I really hope Lib chooses to keep us rowdies on board.
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