Jay_Esbe
08-09-2006, 12:07 PM
http://www.infoisrael.net/cgi-local/text.pl?source=4/b/viii/archives/111120021
Excerpt:
......."No peace agreement but only the tangible democratization of Islam rooted in ethical-religious principles can provide a basis for peace in the religious Middle East. Such principles will be found not only in the Torah, but, strange as it may seem, in a joint Resolution of the United States Congress. For in 1991, Congress explicitly incorporated the Seven Noahide Laws of Universal Morality in Public Law 102-14, which established March 26 as “Education Day”! The Seven Noahide Laws were recognized by Hugo Grotius, the 17th century jurisprudent, as the basis of peaceful international relations. They can provide the moral content for America�s “Operation: Enduring Tradition” against international terrorism. President George W. Bush, a devout Christian, is qualified to make the Seven Noahide Laws the ultimate justification of America�s war against Islamic civilization.
The Noahide Laws, though violated by all Islamic regimes that breed or harbor terrorists, are nonetheless laws which Muslim countries profess and should be required to abide by. Six prohibit idolatry, cursing God, murder, robbery, adultery, and eating the flesh of a live animal, while the seventh requires the establishment of courts of justice. Such courts are obviously essential to any society based on the primacy of reason or persuasion rather than passion or intimidation.
The Noahide laws (together with their particular branches) comprise what may be termed a "genial orthodoxy." This genial orthodoxy transcends whatever social or economic distinctions exist among men: it holds all men equal before the law. By so doing it places constraints on governors and governors alike and thereby habituates men to the rule of law. Moreover, this ancient Hebraic orthodoxy can moderate and subordinate the differences of various ethnic groups found in various Arab-Islamic countries and thus facilitate their cooperation and mutual enrichment. If all nations complied with the Noahide Laws of Universal Morality, then war, instead of being the norm of international relations, would be a thing of the past.
Muslim youth need to be taught that the Noahide Laws come from the Torah, that they unite Jews and Christians, that Islam would never have come into existence had not Muhammad learned from Jewish and Christian teachers. Qur�anic verses that degrade Jews and Christians must be neutralized by juxtaposing contradictory verses and by commentaries that render such degradation obsolete. Youth should be taught that it is sinful for Muslims to wage jihad against Jews and Christians (as well as Hindus). They must be taught that Muslims who murder women, men, and children in the name of Allah desecrate God�s name. They should also learn that the concept of jihad contradicts the United Nations Charter as well as the Universal Declaration of Human Rights which prescribes “tolerance and friendship among all nations, racial, or religious groups.” The word jihad should be stricken from Islamic law. Public renunciation of jihad should be the litmus test of whether a Muslim regime, consistent with the Seven Noahide Laws, is sincerely committed to peace. Jihad should mean nothing more than striving for self-perfection.
President�s Bush�s “Axis of Evil” speech following September 11 brands as wicked any Muslim state that provides a haven for terrorists. This definition applies to almost all Islamic regimes and thus calls for regime change. Regime change involves not only WHO rules and HOW they rule (hence political institutions), but also the ENDS for which they rule, which ends must have ethical-religious content. From these three basic factors of regime change, a civic ethos must develop, reinforced by appropriate educational and social institutions.[24] The non-secular democratization of Islam should be a declaratory principle of American and Israeli foreign policy........."
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Esbe: Does this sound INSANE to you? No? Not yet? When you UNDERSTAND exactly WHO and WHAT this Noahide movement is actually about, as opposed to the shiny public face put on by the author, it's a whole new ball-game:
http://www.noahide.com/infiltration/xmas.htm
Campaign to abolish X-mas
celebration by gentiles
Noahide Mivtzaiim materials now available. Anyone interested in obtaining holiday fliers (@ $.25 each) to distribute to their non-Jewish associates, please contact Shmuel or Aaron for more info:
[phone number withheld] www.noahide.com
Why Torah obligates all Jews in this campaign:
"...according to the known Jewish ruling that Christians are idol worshippers." (Likkutei Sichos 37:19
A gentile...is liable for the death penalty...if he has invented a religious holiday for himself...The general principle is we do not allow them to make new religious rituals and to make 'mitzvahs' for themselves by their own devices. Rather they may either become a Ger Tzeddek and accept all the Mitvahs; or he (the Noahide) should stand fast in his Torah (the seven Noahide Laws) without adding or diminishing...and if he does make some new 'mitzvah,' we lash him, punish him, and inform him that he is obligated with the death penalty for this..." (Rambam Mishne Torah—Hilchos Melachim 10:9)
"...it is however obvious that if it will be perceived by them (the nations), also the matter of the negation of shituf, until they even have some recognition of the Unity of Hashem—that 'there is nothing else besides Him'; this will add both in their carefulness and meticulousness in fulfilling the seven Noahide Laws [with all of their ramifications!] and also in their aiding of Jewish people in all of their matters pertaining to Yiddishkeit and all of their needs in general..." (Likkutei Sichos 25: YudTes Kislev)
"Any person who has already worked successfully in this area should try to influence other Jews to do likewise. Resistance should not deter one when attempting to influence a further individual to accept upon himself the task of disseminating the Noahide Laws amongst the nations." (Hisvaduyos 5750 2:18-19)
UPDATE: The campaign to cut off U.S. funding to the PLO continues, having now accumulated at least 240 signatures in the Fairfax area.
Clash Over Anti-Xmas Campaign Home page The Hasidic Gentile Movement
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ESBE: You want to talk about "Crazies" who intend to cut people's heads off over religion? Here they are.
"Islamic paranoia" is WELL JUSTIFIED. These people are NOT STUPID.
"Islam" has been presented as "A Religion of Terror" by a Zionist dominated, meticulously controlled Western media, but the truth is the absolute OPPOSITE of what the American people are being told.
The Quran makes it ABUNDANTLY CLEAR, "There shall be no compulsion in religion". Islam is INHERINTLY NOT ONLY TOLERANT OF CHRISTIANITY AND JUDAISM, BUT THE ONLY RELIGIOUS SCRIPTURE IN THE WORLD THAT NAMES TWO OTHER RELIGIONS AND DEMANDS THEIR ADHERANTS BE ACCORDED RELIGIOUS LIBERTY AS "PEOPLE OF THE BOOK" (The Bible).
CONTRAST that with what the Talmud has to say about Jesus and Christians:
The Talmud (Babylonian edition) records other sins of "Jesus the Nazarene":
1. He and his disciples practiced sorcery and black magic, led Jews astray into idolatry, and were sponsored by foreign, gentile powers for the purpose of subverting Jewish worship (Sanhedrin 43a).
2. He was sexually immoral, worshipped statues of stone (a brick is mentioned), was cut off from the Jewish people for his wickedness, and refused to repent (Sanhedrin 107b; Sotah 47a).
3. He learned witchcraft in Egypt and, to perform miracles, used procedures that involved cutting his flesh—which is also explicitly banned in the Bible (Shabbos 104b).
SOURCE: NOT David Duke. NOT "Storm Front". NOT "Gentile".
THIS TRANSLATION, LONG DENIED AS A "MISTRANLATION", LONG CLAIMED TO BE "FAKE", IS RIGHT FROM THE HASIDIC WEBSITE JAHG-USA (http://www.noahide.com/index.htm)
How INFLUENTIAL is this group?
Influential enought that Ari Fleisher, Paul Wolfowitz, Joe Lieberman, and John Bolten have ATTENDED THEIR FUNCTIONS AND PUBLICALLY SPOKEN AT THEM.
Wouldn't you think a group dedicated to eventually DECAPITATING GENTILES for celebrating Christmas, would be considered the EPITOME of "Terrorists"? Esbe would.
I'd LOVE to see all the Zionists here try to prove this group are not Hasidic Jews with DIRECT INFLUENCE on our foreign policy. I'd love to see any one of them tell me how "Noble" these MURDEROUS COCK SUCKERS are on account of the Holocaust.
But what we will see, is the BIG DANCE.
Micky: I understand that you are Jewish. I am tasking you here with something; to study the claims and statements this group has made, and to confirm or deny their identity as a sect of Jews. I'm asking you to do this because you've actually evidenced a degree of honesty here so far that is entirely absent in Lib or the other fanatical defenders of fanatical Zionist policies. Tell me they're real, or tell me they're a fake organization run by some "hate group" out to smear Jews.
Excerpt:
......."No peace agreement but only the tangible democratization of Islam rooted in ethical-religious principles can provide a basis for peace in the religious Middle East. Such principles will be found not only in the Torah, but, strange as it may seem, in a joint Resolution of the United States Congress. For in 1991, Congress explicitly incorporated the Seven Noahide Laws of Universal Morality in Public Law 102-14, which established March 26 as “Education Day”! The Seven Noahide Laws were recognized by Hugo Grotius, the 17th century jurisprudent, as the basis of peaceful international relations. They can provide the moral content for America�s “Operation: Enduring Tradition” against international terrorism. President George W. Bush, a devout Christian, is qualified to make the Seven Noahide Laws the ultimate justification of America�s war against Islamic civilization.
The Noahide Laws, though violated by all Islamic regimes that breed or harbor terrorists, are nonetheless laws which Muslim countries profess and should be required to abide by. Six prohibit idolatry, cursing God, murder, robbery, adultery, and eating the flesh of a live animal, while the seventh requires the establishment of courts of justice. Such courts are obviously essential to any society based on the primacy of reason or persuasion rather than passion or intimidation.
The Noahide laws (together with their particular branches) comprise what may be termed a "genial orthodoxy." This genial orthodoxy transcends whatever social or economic distinctions exist among men: it holds all men equal before the law. By so doing it places constraints on governors and governors alike and thereby habituates men to the rule of law. Moreover, this ancient Hebraic orthodoxy can moderate and subordinate the differences of various ethnic groups found in various Arab-Islamic countries and thus facilitate their cooperation and mutual enrichment. If all nations complied with the Noahide Laws of Universal Morality, then war, instead of being the norm of international relations, would be a thing of the past.
Muslim youth need to be taught that the Noahide Laws come from the Torah, that they unite Jews and Christians, that Islam would never have come into existence had not Muhammad learned from Jewish and Christian teachers. Qur�anic verses that degrade Jews and Christians must be neutralized by juxtaposing contradictory verses and by commentaries that render such degradation obsolete. Youth should be taught that it is sinful for Muslims to wage jihad against Jews and Christians (as well as Hindus). They must be taught that Muslims who murder women, men, and children in the name of Allah desecrate God�s name. They should also learn that the concept of jihad contradicts the United Nations Charter as well as the Universal Declaration of Human Rights which prescribes “tolerance and friendship among all nations, racial, or religious groups.” The word jihad should be stricken from Islamic law. Public renunciation of jihad should be the litmus test of whether a Muslim regime, consistent with the Seven Noahide Laws, is sincerely committed to peace. Jihad should mean nothing more than striving for self-perfection.
President�s Bush�s “Axis of Evil” speech following September 11 brands as wicked any Muslim state that provides a haven for terrorists. This definition applies to almost all Islamic regimes and thus calls for regime change. Regime change involves not only WHO rules and HOW they rule (hence political institutions), but also the ENDS for which they rule, which ends must have ethical-religious content. From these three basic factors of regime change, a civic ethos must develop, reinforced by appropriate educational and social institutions.[24] The non-secular democratization of Islam should be a declaratory principle of American and Israeli foreign policy........."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Esbe: Does this sound INSANE to you? No? Not yet? When you UNDERSTAND exactly WHO and WHAT this Noahide movement is actually about, as opposed to the shiny public face put on by the author, it's a whole new ball-game:
http://www.noahide.com/infiltration/xmas.htm
Campaign to abolish X-mas
celebration by gentiles
Noahide Mivtzaiim materials now available. Anyone interested in obtaining holiday fliers (@ $.25 each) to distribute to their non-Jewish associates, please contact Shmuel or Aaron for more info:
[phone number withheld] www.noahide.com
Why Torah obligates all Jews in this campaign:
"...according to the known Jewish ruling that Christians are idol worshippers." (Likkutei Sichos 37:19
A gentile...is liable for the death penalty...if he has invented a religious holiday for himself...The general principle is we do not allow them to make new religious rituals and to make 'mitzvahs' for themselves by their own devices. Rather they may either become a Ger Tzeddek and accept all the Mitvahs; or he (the Noahide) should stand fast in his Torah (the seven Noahide Laws) without adding or diminishing...and if he does make some new 'mitzvah,' we lash him, punish him, and inform him that he is obligated with the death penalty for this..." (Rambam Mishne Torah—Hilchos Melachim 10:9)
"...it is however obvious that if it will be perceived by them (the nations), also the matter of the negation of shituf, until they even have some recognition of the Unity of Hashem—that 'there is nothing else besides Him'; this will add both in their carefulness and meticulousness in fulfilling the seven Noahide Laws [with all of their ramifications!] and also in their aiding of Jewish people in all of their matters pertaining to Yiddishkeit and all of their needs in general..." (Likkutei Sichos 25: YudTes Kislev)
"Any person who has already worked successfully in this area should try to influence other Jews to do likewise. Resistance should not deter one when attempting to influence a further individual to accept upon himself the task of disseminating the Noahide Laws amongst the nations." (Hisvaduyos 5750 2:18-19)
UPDATE: The campaign to cut off U.S. funding to the PLO continues, having now accumulated at least 240 signatures in the Fairfax area.
Clash Over Anti-Xmas Campaign Home page The Hasidic Gentile Movement
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
ESBE: You want to talk about "Crazies" who intend to cut people's heads off over religion? Here they are.
"Islamic paranoia" is WELL JUSTIFIED. These people are NOT STUPID.
"Islam" has been presented as "A Religion of Terror" by a Zionist dominated, meticulously controlled Western media, but the truth is the absolute OPPOSITE of what the American people are being told.
The Quran makes it ABUNDANTLY CLEAR, "There shall be no compulsion in religion". Islam is INHERINTLY NOT ONLY TOLERANT OF CHRISTIANITY AND JUDAISM, BUT THE ONLY RELIGIOUS SCRIPTURE IN THE WORLD THAT NAMES TWO OTHER RELIGIONS AND DEMANDS THEIR ADHERANTS BE ACCORDED RELIGIOUS LIBERTY AS "PEOPLE OF THE BOOK" (The Bible).
CONTRAST that with what the Talmud has to say about Jesus and Christians:
The Talmud (Babylonian edition) records other sins of "Jesus the Nazarene":
1. He and his disciples practiced sorcery and black magic, led Jews astray into idolatry, and were sponsored by foreign, gentile powers for the purpose of subverting Jewish worship (Sanhedrin 43a).
2. He was sexually immoral, worshipped statues of stone (a brick is mentioned), was cut off from the Jewish people for his wickedness, and refused to repent (Sanhedrin 107b; Sotah 47a).
3. He learned witchcraft in Egypt and, to perform miracles, used procedures that involved cutting his flesh—which is also explicitly banned in the Bible (Shabbos 104b).
SOURCE: NOT David Duke. NOT "Storm Front". NOT "Gentile".
THIS TRANSLATION, LONG DENIED AS A "MISTRANLATION", LONG CLAIMED TO BE "FAKE", IS RIGHT FROM THE HASIDIC WEBSITE JAHG-USA (http://www.noahide.com/index.htm)
How INFLUENTIAL is this group?
Influential enought that Ari Fleisher, Paul Wolfowitz, Joe Lieberman, and John Bolten have ATTENDED THEIR FUNCTIONS AND PUBLICALLY SPOKEN AT THEM.
Wouldn't you think a group dedicated to eventually DECAPITATING GENTILES for celebrating Christmas, would be considered the EPITOME of "Terrorists"? Esbe would.
I'd LOVE to see all the Zionists here try to prove this group are not Hasidic Jews with DIRECT INFLUENCE on our foreign policy. I'd love to see any one of them tell me how "Noble" these MURDEROUS COCK SUCKERS are on account of the Holocaust.
But what we will see, is the BIG DANCE.
Micky: I understand that you are Jewish. I am tasking you here with something; to study the claims and statements this group has made, and to confirm or deny their identity as a sect of Jews. I'm asking you to do this because you've actually evidenced a degree of honesty here so far that is entirely absent in Lib or the other fanatical defenders of fanatical Zionist policies. Tell me they're real, or tell me they're a fake organization run by some "hate group" out to smear Jews.