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Jay_Esbe
08-08-2006, 07:17 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_of_apartheid
Crime of apartheid
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This article is about the crime of apartheid as defined by a convention and a treaty promulgated by the United Nations. For the system of racial segregation which formerly existed in the Union of South Africa, later known as the Republic of South Africa, see History of South Africa in the apartheid era. For other uses, see Apartheid (disambiguation).

The "crime of apartheid" is defined by the 2002 treaty establishing the International Criminal Court[1] as any crime against humanity "committed in the context of an institutionalised regime of systematic oppression and domination by one racial group over any other racial group or groups and committed with the intention of maintaining that regime."[2] It lists such crimes as murder, enslavement, deprivation of physical liberty, forced relocation, sexual violence, and collective persecution.

In 1973, the General Assembly of the United Nations opened for signature and ratification the International Convention on the Suppression and Punishment of the Crime of Apartheid (ICSPCA)[3]. It defined the crime of apartheid as "inhuman acts committed for the purpose of establishing and maintaining domination by one racial group of persons over any other racial group of persons and systematically oppressing them." It mentions racially based acts such as murder, infringement on freedom or dignity, arbitrary arrest and imprisonment, imposition of inhumane living conditions, forced labor, or enacting measures calculated to prevent a racial group from "participation in the political, social, economic and cultural life of the country" such as denying them "basic human rights and freedoms, including the right to work, the right to form recognised trade unions, the right to education, the right to leave and to return to their country, the right to a nationality, the right to freedom of movement and residence, the right to freedom of opinion and expression, and the right to freedom of peaceful assembly and association."
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So let's cut the bullshit: DOES THIS NOT DESCRIBE THE "NATURE" OF THE STATE OF ISRAEL AND IT'S POLICIES WITH AN AMAZING DEBREE OF COMPLETENESS OR NOT?

Gerry
08-08-2006, 07:39 PM
It DOES!

gabtug
08-08-2006, 07:49 PM
I agree. Lets cut the bullshit.
How many countries do the arab have? 23? More?
I dont know but it is well into the 20's.

And how many of them allow Jews to live in their country without being stoned?
How many Jews can set foot in mecca and live? Or in Iran, or syria, or any of their countries?

Israel is at least better than all these arab countries, which, as this law describes shows who really is the oppressor. At least Israel allows arabs to live in their midst!

And in my oppinion, i think all arabs should be kicked out of Israel.
If all the arab countries can't come to recognize Israel and stop oppressing it, I think there is no obligation placed upon Israel to harbour its enemey in its midst.

Freedom does not include freedom to kill.

Oh, and even Lebonon. Look at the last lebanease leader who voiced condemnation of Hizbollah - he was murdered!

So much for free speech.
(not to even mention that there are some cabinet ministers in Israeli parliment that are arabs.)


Please look at your surroundings first and see if your statement first apply to the other arab countries.
If you do so, you will quickly realize that 99% of all arguments against Israel are resolved. You will find that they all in reality apply to the arabs, with Israel only responding to that threat.

Bubba2
08-08-2006, 09:09 PM
I agree. Lets cut the bullshit.

And how many of them allow Jews to live in their country without being stoned?
How many Jews can set foot in mecca and live? Or in Iran, or syria, or any of their countries?



http://www.jerusalemites.org/jerusalem/islam/51.htm
Yet another common myth is that Jews were chased out of Syria, and that any Jews who remain in Syria are discriminated against. It should come as no real surprise in this age of Orwellian “news” that quite the opposite is true. First of all, many Jews left Syria voluntarily to be in Israel, which as you know gives favored status to Jews. The Jews who have chosen to stay in Syria are among the wealthiest of Syrian society. On top of that, the Syrian government goes out of its way to make sure that Jews are not discriminated against there, and in fact, apparently Jews get preferential treatment in many cases. Just for an example, Jews may get governmental documents speedier than non-Jews in Syria precisely to avoid any charges of discrimination, we were told. We personally met a Jewish man who was managing his antiques shop in Damascus, where he had non-Jewish shop-owners as neighbors. They all seemed to get along together quite well. Once again, another Zionist myth shattered.

There are Jewish populations in Iran, Eqypt and Iraq as well. Anyone else know of others in the ME?

Gerry
08-08-2006, 09:28 PM
I agree. Lets cut the bullshit.
How many countries do the arab have? 23? More?
I dont know but it is well into the 20's.

And how many of them allow Jews to live in their country without being stoned?
How many Jews can set foot in mecca and live? Or in Iran, or syria, or any of their countries?

Large Jewish population in Iran, Jewish population in Syria and Egypt.

Israel is at least better than all these arab countries, which, as this law describes shows who really is the oppressor. At least Israel allows arabs to live in their midst!

As 4th class citizens. They have NO right and they cannot own ther own home. Jews do not have that descrimination elswhere.

And in my oppinion, i think all arabs should be kicked out of Israel.
If all the arab countries can't come to recognize Israel and stop oppressing it, I think there is no obligation placed upon Israel to harbour its enemey in its midst.

It seems your opinion doesn't matter much, considering you're spouting utter nonsense while clearly not having ANY familiarity with the facts. It is the Israelis who are in violations of 65 U.N. Resolutions for numerous invasions and a 40 year long illegal occupation of Palestinian land. So the international community considers you an ass.

Freedom does not include freedom to kill.

Tell that to the Israelis.

Oh, and even Lebonon. Look at the last lebanease leader who voiced condemnation of Hizbollah - he was murdered!

guess by whom??? Does Mossad ring a bell?

So much for free speech.
(not to even mention that there are some cabinet ministers in Israeli parliament that are arabs.)

I wish you hadn't mentioned it because there are NO arab ministers in parliament. NONE. There are a few token Arab members of the Likud, they are however NO ministers.


Please look at your surroundings first and see if your statement first apply to the other arab countries.
If you do so, you will quickly realize that 99% of all arguments against Israel are resolved. You will find that they all in reality apply to the arabs, with Israel only responding to that threat.

Why don;t you go to bed. It's WAY past your bedtime.