View Full Version : George Calloway calling Israel Terrorists
Gerry
08-07-2006, 06:07 PM
And referring to Hezbollah as legitimate freedom fighters. Listen to him set the lady straight.
"You have short term memory...it is not what happened 4 weeks ago, but what happened over the past 24 years. Israel did NOT leave Lebanon. It is STILL occupying part of it and it has NEVER returned the THOUSANDS of Lebanes prisoners it kidnapped who are in Israeli jails. You have the short term memory of Rupert Murcoch and Skye TV. Israel is a terrorist state!!"
We need more politicians with the guts of Calloway.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article14391.htm
Jay_Esbe
08-07-2006, 06:32 PM
And referring to Hezbollah as legitimate freedom fighters. Listen to him set the lady straight.
"You have short term memory...it is not what happened 4 weeks ago, but what happened over the past 24 years. Israel did NOT leave Lebanon. It is STILL occupying part of it and it has NEVER returned the THOUSANDS of Lebanes prisoners it kidnapped who are in Israeli jails. You have the short term memory of Rupert Murcoch and Skye TV. Israel is a terrorist state!!"
We need more politicians with the guts of Calloway.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article14391.htm
Now THAT is what I call ripping her a new one! Man did he make mince meat out of her or what.
Gerry
08-07-2006, 07:04 PM
Now THAT is what I call ripping her a new one! Man did he make mince meat out of her or what.
Yep...he sure did! I watched it TWICE. We need more like him.
PS Dingo has a problem comprehending how our support of Israel could lead to our having complete control over M.E. oil. I am so frigging tired of having to hold this nincompoops hand and then have him twist things around. I gave up.
Jay_Esbe
08-07-2006, 11:45 PM
Yep...he sure did! I watched it TWICE. We need more like him.
PS Dingo has a problem comprehending how our support of Israel could lead to our having complete control over M.E. oil. I am so frigging tired of having to hold this nincompoops hand and then have him twist things around. I gave up.
You have to understand that any time you attempt to connect the dots to make some damned sense of something in front of Dingo, his little doggy brain goes foggy and he just starts yipping "conspiracy theory! Conspiracy theory!".
Dingo
08-08-2006, 12:28 AM
And referring to Hezbollah as legitimate freedom fighters. Listen to him set the lady straight.
"You have short term memory...it is not what happened 4 weeks ago, but what happened over the past 24 years. Israel did NOT leave Lebanon. It is STILL occupying part of it and it has NEVER returned the THOUSANDS of Lebanes prisoners it kidnapped who are in Israeli jails. You have the short term memory of Rupert Murcoch and Skye TV. Israel is a terrorist state!!"
We need more politicians with the guts of Calloway.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article14391.htm
Israel for all its sins has Gerry around to make them look good just by the ham handed idiocy and inaccuracy of her criticisms or those she chooses to stand in for her.
Ever since the Israeli withdrawal in 2000, Hezbollah has put it as one of its goals to retrieve the Lebanese prisoners in Israeli jails.
There are only three, right?
Exactly. Sometimes Hezbollah will speak about releasing Palestinian prisoners, which would make the number into the thousands.
Esbe who wouldn't know a fact from a factoid masturbates. "Now THAT is what I call ripping her a new one! Man did he make mince meat out of her or what."
Having never once offered one coherent sentence on the subject Gerry opines "PS Dingo has a problem comprehending how our support of Israel could lead to our having complete control over M.E. oil. I am so frigging tired of having to hold this nincompoops hand and then have him twist things around. I gave up."
When you haven't got the goods I guess a little wipe of the brow and a posture of exasperation is always good for a public show. Actually Gerry and I have only barely discussed the subject. Little early in the game to get tired when you haven't as yet said anything. LOL
Esbe unpleasantly whines about my exposing him as a conspiracy nut. Hell you're both conspiracy nuts. Glad to have provided you two nutcases with a bonding moment. :rolleyes:
Gerry
08-08-2006, 01:08 PM
You have to understand that any time you attempt to connect the dots to make some damned sense of something in front of Dingo, his little doggy brain goes foggy and he just starts yipping "conspiracy theory! Conspiracy theory!".
I know, I know...you're so right LOL Pathetic really!
Gerry
08-08-2006, 01:10 PM
Israel for all its sins has Gerry around to make them look good just by the ham handed idiocy and inaccuracy of her criticisms or those she chooses to stand in for her.
Esbe who wouldn't know a fact from a factoid masturbates. "Now THAT is what I call ripping her a new one! Man did he make mince meat out of her or what."
Having never once offered one coherent sentence on the subject Gerry opines "PS Dingo has a problem comprehending how our support of Israel could lead to our having complete control over M.E. oil. I am so frigging tired of having to hold this nincompoops hand and then have him twist things around. I gave up."
When you haven't got the goods I guess a little wipe of the brow and a posture of exasperation is always good for a public show. Actually Gerry and I have only barely discussed the subject. Little early in the game to get tired when you haven't as yet said anything. LOL
Esbe unpleasantly whines about my exposing him as a conspiracy nut. Hell you're both conspiracy nuts. Glad to have provided you two nutcases with a bonding moment. :rolleyes:
Thanks! You didn't disappoint me.
Gerry
08-08-2006, 07:45 PM
Bump
Dingo
08-09-2006, 06:12 AM
Thanks! You didn't disappoint me.
Posture lady posture. That's all you got. "it has NEVER returned the THOUSANDS of Lebanes prisoners it kidnapped who are in Israeli jails." Three Lebanese prisoners! Shot you down again for the umpteenth time. But with your anti-Semitic and conspiracy nutcase buddies you should stay well networked. Just give the poor Palestinians a break. You've already done enough damage to their cause.
While I was very impressed with Calloway, I did some reseach (Wikipedia) and it yielded the following nugget which would seem to contradict the basis of some of Calloway's arguments:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1982_Lebanon_War
"Israel continues to control a small area called "Shebaa Farms", which Lebanon and Syria claim to be Lebanese territory but Israel insists to be former Syrian territory with the same status as the Golan Heights, since they have captured it from the Syrians. The United Nations has determined that Shebaa Farms is not part of Lebanon. The UN Secretary-General had concluded that, as of 16 June 2000, Israel had withdrawn its forces from Lebanon in accordance with UN Security Council Resolution 425 of 1978, bringing closure to the 1982 invasion as far as the UN was concerned."
We have heard the UN being thrown around as the basis of international law and that Israel has ignored 65 resolutions against it, but if this is true, then Calloway's claim that Israel was occupying Lebanon prior to the recent hostilitites is false (at least as far back as the year 2000). The UN has ruled that Shebaa Farms is not a part of Lebanon and that Israel had in fact withdrawn from Lebanon.
This in addition to Dingo's point that Calloway mis-stated the number of Lebanese hostages (3 versus thousands), proves that nobody has all the facts straight in this complicated issue.
Gerry
08-09-2006, 01:09 PM
While I was very impressed with Calloway, I did some reseach (Wikipedia) and it yielded the following nugget which would seem to contradict the basis of some of Calloway's arguments:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1982_Lebanon_War
"Israel continues to control a small area called "Shebaa Farms", which Lebanon and Syria claim to be Lebanese territory but Israel insists to be former Syrian territory with the same status as the Golan Heights, since they have captured it from the Syrians. The United Nations has determined that Shebaa Farms is not part of Lebanon. The UN Secretary-General had concluded that, as of 16 June 2000, Israel had withdrawn its forces from Lebanon in accordance with UN Security Council Resolution 425 of 1978, bringing closure to the 1982 invasion as far as the UN was concerned."
It is inmaterial whether the land belongs to Syria or Lebanon it DOES NOT belong to Israel and neither does the Golan Heights which they are occupying illegally. So, no matter which way Israel spins this, they have no business being there. The majority of the people at Shebaa Farms are Lebanese. They have building permits provided by Lebanon over the years. Syria itself does not care and has deeded the land to Lebanon. So the question still is WHAT is Israel doing there? And having provided faulty information can also provide faulty conclusions on the part of the U.N.
We have heard the UN being thrown around as the basis of international law and that Israel has ignored 65 resolutions against it, but if this is true, then Calloway's claim that Israel was occupying Lebanon prior to the recent hostilitites is false (at least as far back as the year 2000). The UN has ruled that Shebaa Farms is not a part of Lebanon and that Israel had in fact withdrawn from Lebanon.
Israel illegally occupied LEbanon from 1982 (which gave rise to Hezbollah) untill 2000 when Hezbollah succeeded in pushing Israel out of most of Lebanon but not ALL, leaving the Shebaa Farms area still under Israeli occupation. The U.N. has NOT ruled that Sheba Farms is either part of Lebanon or Syria stating that the demarcation lines are unclear. There is NO U.N. ruling that deeds Sheba Farms to Israel. So the questions remains "What is Israel doing in Shebaa Farms"
This in addition to Dingo's point that Calloway mis-stated the number of Lebanese hostages (3 versus thousands), proves that nobody has all the facts straight in this complicated issue.
Dingo is an idiot......During the 18 year long illegal occupation of Lebanon BY Israel, Israel illegally kidnapped, abducted MANY THOUSANDS of Lebanese who were taken to Israel never to be seen or heard from again. Like Calloway I like to ask you to let your memory go a little further than the past 4 weeks. I know you can do that. Many THOUSANDS of Lebanese prisoner are still in Israeli jails. You really think that Calloway would be so stupid as to make strong allegations on public television that were not TRUE? It would very quickly do away with his credibility would it not.
Hezbollah has further demanded that Israel provide them with a map outlining the 300,000 illegal landmines it placed which Israel refuses to do.
Now, ever since Hezbollah succeeded in kicking Israel out of MOST of Lebanon but not all, in 2000, Israel has continuously and illegally invaded Lebanese airspace with drones. It has engaged in shootings of innocent sheppards and kidnappings WEEKLY. For the kidnappings they engaged in illegal border crossings. It was during one of those border crossing into Lebanon that Hezbollah engaged the IDF troops, killed 8 and kidnapped 2. They were on Lebanese soil. The Dingos of the world drink the kool-aid and will lie to defend there own comfort zone which has nothing whatsoever to do with the facts.
Incidentally Wikipedia is not the most reliable source, especially of sensitive issues such as these.
It is inmaterial whether the land belongs to Syria or Lebanon it DOES NOT belong to Israel and neither does the Golan Heights which they are occupying illegally. So, no matter which way Israel spins this, they have no business being there. The majority of the people at Shebaa Farms are Lebanese. They have building permits provided by Lebanon over the years. Syria itself does not care and has deeded the land to Lebanon. So the question still is WHAT is Israel doing there? And having provided faulty information can also provide faulty conclusions on the part of the U.N.
Israel illegally occupied LEbanon from 1982 (which gave rise to Hezbollah) untill 2000 when Hezbollah succeeded in pushing Israel out of most of Lebanon but not ALL, leaving the Shebaa Farms area still under Israeli occupation. The U.N. has NOT ruled that Sheba Farms is either part of Lebanon or Syria stating that the demarcation lines are unclear. There is NO U.N. ruling that deeds Sheba Farms to Israel. So the questions remains "What is Israel doing in Shebaa Farms"
Dingo is an idiot......During the 18 year long illegal occupation of Lebanon BY Israel, Israel illegally kidnapped, abducted MANY THOUSANDS of Lebanese who were taken to Israel never to be seen or heard from again. Like Calloway I like to ask you to let your memory go a little further than the past 4 weeks. I know you can do that. Many THOUSANDS of Lebanese prisoner are still in Israeli jails. You really think that Calloway would be so stupid as to make strong allegations on public television that were not TRUE? It would very quickly do away with his credibility would it not.
Hezbollah has further demanded that Israel provide them with a map outlining the 300,000 illegal landmines it placed which Israel refuses to do.
Now, ever since Hezbollah succeeded in kicking Israel out of MOST of Lebanon but not all, in 2000, Israel has continuously and illegally invaded Lebanese airspace with drones. It has engaged in shootings of innocent sheppards and kidnappings WEEKLY. For the kidnappings they engaged in illegal border crossings. It was during one of those border crossing into Lebanon that Hezbollah engaged the IDF troops, killed 8 and kidnapped 2. They were on Lebanese soil. The Dingos of the world drink the kool-aid and will lie to defend there own comfort zone which has nothing whatsoever to do with the facts.
Incidentally Wikipedia is not the most reliable source, especially of sensitive issues such as these.
I understand that Wikipedia can be edited by just about anyone. I challenged someone on the left about this on hypercrites (maybe Beiderman), but I was told it was reliable. That is part of the reason why I posted this informtion. I wanted to test the source. Thanks for your post.
Gerry
08-09-2006, 01:17 PM
I understand that Wikipedia can be edited by just about anyone. I challenged someone on the left about this on hypercrites (maybe Beiderman), but I was told it was reliable. That is part of the reason why I posted this informtion. I wanted to test the source. Thanks for your post.
Recently some intellectual from a big university, certainly far smarter than I, brought up the fact that the Encyclopeadia Brittanica is not much better than Wikipedia, which seems to indict both as poor sources, although, for a quick reference they're alright.
Fair &Balanced Who Ca
08-09-2006, 01:23 PM
It is inmaterial whether the land belongs to Syria or Lebanon it DOES NOT belong to Israel and neither does the Golan Heights which they are occupying illegally. So, no matter which way Israel spins this, they have no business being there. The majority of the people at Shebaa Farms are Lebanese. They have building permits provided by Lebanon over the years. Syria itself does not care and has deeded the land to Lebanon. So the question still is WHAT is Israel doing there? And having provided faulty information can also provide faulty conclusions on the part of the U.N.
Israel illegally occupied LEbanon from 1982 (which gave rise to Hezbollah) untill 2000 when Hezbollah succeeded in pushing Israel out of most of Lebanon but not ALL, leaving the Shebaa Farms area still under Israeli occupation. The U.N. has NOT ruled that Sheba Farms is either part of Lebanon or Syria stating that the demarcation lines are unclear. There is NO U.N. ruling that deeds Sheba Farms to Israel. So the questions remains "What is Israel doing in Shebaa Farms"
Dingo is an idiot......During the 18 year long illegal occupation of Lebanon BY Israel, Israel illegally kidnapped, abducted MANY THOUSANDS of Lebanese who were taken to Israel never to be seen or heard from again. Like Calloway I like to ask you to let your memory go a little further than the past 4 weeks. I know you can do that. Many THOUSANDS of Lebanese prisoner are still in Israeli jails. You really think that Calloway would be so stupid as to make strong allegations on public television that were not TRUE? It would very quickly do away with his credibility would it not.
Hezbollah has further demanded that Israel provide them with a map outlining the 300,000 illegal landmines it placed which Israel refuses to do.
Now, ever since Hezbollah succeeded in kicking Israel out of MOST of Lebanon but not all, in 2000, Israel has continuously and illegally invaded Lebanese airspace with drones. It has engaged in shootings of innocent sheppards and kidnappings WEEKLY. For the kidnappings they engaged in illegal border crossings. It was during one of those border crossing into Lebanon that Hezbollah engaged the IDF troops, killed 8 and kidnapped 2. They were on Lebanese soil. The Dingos of the world drink the kool-aid and will lie to defend there own comfort zone which has nothing whatsoever to do with the facts.
Incidentally Wikipedia is not the most reliable source, especially of sensitive issues such as these.
Mark, please note that Gerry has no source for the thousands of Lebanese kidnapping victims; just claims it.
Please also note that the man's name is GALLOWAY, and not CALLOWAY.
Wikipedia is pretty accurate. Sometimes there are errors, but usually if something is not completely verified there will be a note that says "citation needed."
Dingo is most certainly not an idiot, but Gerry is a certifiable loony, Jew-hater, liar and fucking evil person.
Recently some intellectual from a big university, certainly far smarter than I, brought up the fact that the Encyclopeadia Brittanica is not much better than Wikipedia, which seems to indict both as poor sources, although, for a quick reference they're alright.
My cousin posted my Dad's biography on Wikipedia (he's an interesting fellow of some accomplishment). There was a small error and I corrected it. I was pretty shocked at how easily I was able to do this. Wikipedia seems to be a great reference on many subjects. I've read some really interesting articles about some of my favorite rock bands. But, as Pilot asked:
What is truth?
Gerry
08-09-2006, 01:34 PM
My cousin posted my Dad's biography on Wikipedia (he's an interesting fellow of some accomplishment). There was a small error and I corrected it. I was pretty shocked at how easily I was able to do this. Wikipedia seems to be a great reference on many subjects. I've read some really interesting articles about some of my favorite rock bands. But, as Pilot asked:
What is truth?
I know Wikipedia is a good as a quick reference guide. But it is the ease with which one can change its content that leaves it open to personal ideology and therefore misinformation. I have caught it a number of times.
Mark, please note that Gerry has no source for the thousands of Lebanese kidnapping victims; just claims it.
Please also note that the man's name is GALLOWAY, and not CALLOWAY.
Wikipedia is pretty accurate. Sometimes there are errors, but usually if something is not completely verified there will be a note that says "citation needed."
Dingo is most certainly not an idiot, but Gerry is a certifiable loony, Jew-hater, liar and fucking evil person.
All opinions are duly noted. As you can see, I'm taking the diplomatic approach and I talk to everyone. My true feelings about each poster are my own personal property. I am with you concerning racism or Jew-hating, but I guess Gerry has expressed enough interest and offered enough information about my health issues that I am willing to read her opinions and just ask questions about anything that I consider to be inconsistent, puzzling or partisan. Maybe she "paid me" for my interest in her opinions. I don't know.
I just read (in the bathroom - ha) a quote:
Having two conflicting opinions about a subject is a sign of intelligence.
If that is true, then I'm the smartest guy around...
Jay_Esbe
08-09-2006, 01:42 PM
Mark, please note that Gerry has no source for the thousands of Lebanese kidnapping victims; just claims it.
Please also note that the man's name is GALLOWAY, and not CALLOWAY.
Wikipedia is pretty accurate. Sometimes there are errors, but usually if something is not completely verified there will be a note that says "citation needed."
Dingo is most certainly not an idiot, but Gerry is a certifiable loony, Jew-hater, liar and fucking evil person.
http://www.hrw.org/reports/1997/israelwo/Israelwo.htm
As for "thousands", you'll need to take each grouping of investigated kidnappings and add them together. I do not know how many there are who are specifically Lebanese:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&domains=hrw.org&q=Israel%27s+prisoners&btnG=Search&sitesearch=hrw.org
http://www.google.com/search?q=lebanese+prisoners&hl=en&lr=&domains=hrw.org&sitesearch=hrw.org&start=60&sa=N
Gerry
08-09-2006, 02:00 PM
As part of the ceasefire, Israel agreed to release nine hundred Palestinian prisoners, which it did in February and June. Approximately eight thousand Palestinian political and security prisoners remain imprisoned by Israel. Israel also currently holds more than six hundred Palestinians under administrative detention (detention without trial or charge, which can be indefinitely renewed). (Human Rights Watch) http://hrw.org/english/docs/2006/01/18/isrlpa12224.htm
From the same source another Israeli MYTH debunked.
In August and September 2005, Israel unilaterally withdrew approximately eight thousand settlers, along with military personnel and installations, from the Gaza Strip and four small settlements in the northern West Bank near Jenin. While Israel has since declared the Gaza Strip a “foreign territory” and the crossings between Gaza and Israel “international borders,” under international humanitarian law (IHL), Gaza remains occupied, and Israel retains its responsibilities for the welfare of Gaza residents. Israel maintains effective control over Gaza by regulating movement in and out of the Strip as well as the airspace, sea space, public utilities and population registry. In addition, Israel declared the right to re-enter Gaza militarily at any time in its “Disengagement Plan” Since the withdrawal, Israel has carried out aerial bombardments, including targeted killings, and has fired artillery into the northeastern corner of Gaza.
Gerry
08-09-2006, 03:29 PM
Mark, please note that Gerry has no source for the thousands of Lebanese kidnapping victims; just claims it.
So much for bombastic pricks who make allegations but cannot back them up. Oh well.....
Dingo
08-09-2006, 03:53 PM
One thing I'll say for you Gerry. Nature didn't burden you with the shame gene. You can be wrong a thousand times in a thousand days and you come right back acting like you are the Oracle of Delphi. That's quite a trick. :rolleyes:
Jay_Esbe
08-09-2006, 04:05 PM
One thing I'll say for you Gerry. Nature didn't burden you with the shame gene. You can be wrong a thousand times in a thousand days and you come right back acting like you are the Oracle of Delphi. That's quite a trick. :rolleyes:
I have to assume you're quoting what someone said about you with this. Fits you to a tee.
Bubba2
08-09-2006, 04:06 PM
One thing I'll say for you Gerry. Nature didn't burden you with the shame gene. You can be wrong a thousand times in a thousand days and you come right back acting like you are the Oracle of Delphi. That's quite a trick. :rolleyes:
Nor did nature burden dingo with the truth gene. :rolleyes:
Dingo
08-09-2006, 05:02 PM
Nor did nature burden dingo with the truth gene. :rolleyes:
Now how would you and your butt buddy Asbee know?
Bubba2
08-09-2006, 05:45 PM
Now how would you and your butt buddy Asbee know?
In me, the truth gene is dominant.
Gerry
08-09-2006, 07:45 PM
I think that's the doggy fog yiping Esbe was talking about. LOL
Dingo
08-10-2006, 02:48 AM
In me, the truth gene is dominant.
I think you mean to say in you the toothing scream is dominant. :rolleyes:
Dingo
08-10-2006, 02:52 AM
I think that's the doggy fog yiping Esbe was talking about. LOL
In case you missed the point Gerry.
One thing I'll say for you Gerry. Nature didn't burden you with the shame gene. You can be wrong a thousand times in a thousand days and you come right back acting like you are the Oracle of Delphi. That's quite a trick. :rolleyes:
Fair &Balanced Who Ca
08-10-2006, 07:40 AM
So far, the only source is HRW.
HRW is suspect at being a non-biased source. Apparently, they have an agenda, and it isn't a pro-Israel agenda.
Gerry
08-10-2006, 11:44 AM
Insanity has people do over and over what didn't work in the first place. So why continue your yapping.......?
Jay_Esbe
08-10-2006, 04:15 PM
So far, the only source is HRW.
HRW is suspect at being a non-biased source. Apparently, they have an agenda, and it isn't a pro-Israel agenda.
Yeah, damn them for not having a "pro-Israel agenda". :rolleyes:
Dingo
08-10-2006, 04:17 PM
Insanity has people do over and over what didn't work in the first place. So why continue your yapping.......?
As far as repetition you take the cake. :rolleyes:
Bertrand
08-10-2006, 04:25 PM
As far as repetition you take the cake. :rolleyes:
But the icing on the cake still belongs to you... pompous asshole enabler!
Dingo
08-10-2006, 04:29 PM
But the icing on the cake still belongs to you... pompous asshole enabler!
Condemnation from a neoNazi and Gerry's favorite mutt salvage project.
Gee that hurts. LOL
Gerry
08-10-2006, 07:12 PM
Condemnation from a neoNazi and Gerry's favorite mutt salvage project.
Gee that hurts. LOL
cheap talk is cheap talk. That's all you're capable of....Go get yourself a brain and then try again.
Dingo
08-11-2006, 02:12 PM
What is exactly the attraction you have for Hitler loving neoNazis Gerry?
Gerry
08-11-2006, 02:45 PM
What is exactly the attraction you have for Hitler loving neoNazis Gerry?
That is precisely the question you need to ask yourself. This whole forum knows that I survived Nazi occupation. They also know that my father was in the underground and risked his life for 5 years. They also know that my grandparents had a safe house for Jews and that my little grandmother wore a Yellow stat of David on her coat eventhough she was not a Jewess
So your bellyaching comes accross as disingenuous. Your twisting of information are lies which everyone on this forum reads. You have a whole long litany of posts that prove that you engage in spit-out-of-the window drive-bys, while you contribute NOTHING in the form of any debate. The issue is NOT that you disagree, but that you disagree without being able to prove your own point and then engage in infantile namecalling and twisting what the post said. Children do that.
So the question is WHY do YOU support ethnic cleaning, war crimes and crimes against humanity which is what Israel is guilty of, for you have YET to condemn it. Instead you still speak of HAMAS and Hezbollah as terrorist., suggesting that you have absolutely no clue what the history of the region has been nor what the conditions are under which some people have been forced to live. Death is preferable to many than living under the conditions Israeli dictatorship puts it through. Moshe Dayan, many years ago toold the Palestinians "You will live like dogs"...he was wrong, dogs live better than the Palestinians.
Why are you on this forum? .
Bertrand
08-11-2006, 02:55 PM
That is precisely the question you need to ask yourself. This whole forum knows that I survived Nazi occupation. They also know that my father was in the underground and risked his life for 5 years. They also know that my grandparents had a safe house for Jews and that my little grandmother wore a Yellow stat of David on her coat eventhough she was not a Jewess
So your bellyaching comes accross as disingenuous. Your twisting of information are lies which everyone on this forum reads. You have a whole long litany of posts that prove that you engage in spit-out-of-the window drive-bys, while you contribute NOTHING in the form of any debate. The issue is NOT that you disagree, but that you disagree without being able to prove your own point and then engage in infantile namecalling and twisting what the post said. Children do that.
So the question is WHY do YOU support ethnic cleaning, war crimes and crimes against humanity which is what Israel is guilty of, for you have YET to condemn it. Instead you still speak of HAMAS and Hezbollah as terrorist., suggesting that you have absolutely no clue what the history of the region has been nor what the conditions are under which some people have been forced to live. Death is preferable to many than living under the conditions Israeli dictatorship puts it through. Moshe Dayan, many years ago toold the Palestinians "You will live like dogs"...he was wrong, dogs live better than the Palestinians.
Why are you on this forum? .
Just review his posts in the past few days, Gerry, and you will get a clearl picture.
He takes joy in such moronic activity again and again ad infinitum... with that learned strategy of the radical Zionist strategy... to hinder, and distract and even shut the dialogue or debate... through that tired method.
I think you seem to give him too much importance... and attention.
Take care.
Dingo
08-11-2006, 03:08 PM
That is precisely the question you need to ask yourself. This whole forum knows that I survived Nazi occupation. They also know that my father was in the underground and risked his life for 5 years. They also know that my grandparents had a safe house for Jews and that my little grandmother wore a Yellow stat of David on her coat eventhough she was not a Jewess
Yes you've told that story many times in all its interesting variations. So why are you a Nazi enabler with that background?
So the question is WHY do YOU support ethnic cleaning, war crimes and crimes against humanity which is what Israel is guilty of, for you have YET to condemn it.
You are a complete liar. For over 4 years I have condemned Israel for its policies and you know it.
Instead you still speak of HAMAS and Hezbollah as terrorist.
Actually I haven't around here. In fact of course targeting civilians is terrorist but I don't buy Israel's moral superiority with its collateral damage approach. I happen to think the Hamas terrorist tactics is counterproductive to its cause (Unlike you I don't celebrate their suicide bombings). Picking off the IDF makes more sense and working with Israeli peace groups. I also think Hezbollah as first a legitimate political party married to being a militia acting at times as a proxy for Syria and Iran is ultimately intolerable despite the understandable reaction to earlier Israeli occupation. Since hating Israel is your automatic reflex try seeing that from the perspective of the Lebanese government. How can you have a viable central government with an independent militia acting as a proxy for foreign powers?
Why are you on this forum? .
To tell the truth. Why are you?
Gerry
08-11-2006, 03:09 PM
Just review his posts in the past few days, Gerry, and you will get a clearl picture.
He takes joy in such moronic activity again and again ad infinitum... with that learned strategy of the radical Zionist strategy... to hinder, and distract and even shut the dialogue or debate... through that tired method.
I think you seem to give him too much importance... and attention.
Take care.
I know...I just exposed his sorry ass for the nonsense he spouts. Everyone should read his nonsense. When this jerk can show what he or his family has done personally to save anyones life or did anything during WW2 to fight Hitler, he is allowed to speak. But that he supports ethnic cleansing, war crimes and crimes against humanity against Palestinians when Israel does them, which is the same thing Hitler did, and then turns around calling those, who point that out, Nazis shows how deranged and worped he really is. He is really a sicko. Not very smart and not very well educated.
Thanks
Dingo
08-11-2006, 03:28 PM
Since I nailed Gerry in my last post she side steps it and does a kiss and hug with her love buddy the board Nazi and lies and lies and lies about me. How this strange woman thinks she is helping the cause of the Palestinians is beyond me.
Gerry
08-11-2006, 03:32 PM
Since I nailed Gerry in my last post she side steps it and does a kiss and hug with her love buddy the board Nazi and lies and lies and lies about me. How this strange woman thinks she is helping the cause of the Palestinians is beyond me.
More bragging......you nailed nothing and no one. You expose yourself with every post.
Why are you here??
Dingo
08-11-2006, 03:46 PM
Why are you here??
You provide good contrast. It makes my truth shine brighter. :rolleyes:
Gerry
08-11-2006, 03:53 PM
You provide good contrast. It makes my truth shine brighter. :rolleyes:
What truth?? and how's your foot??? Hurting yet from all that asskicking??
Why are you here?
Dingo
08-11-2006, 04:02 PM
Why are you here?
Get a kick out of exposing phony humanitarians like you. By the way thanks for the setup lines. I've got plenty more responses in my bag. You're an inspiration. :rolleyes:
Gerry
08-11-2006, 06:00 PM
Get a kick out of exposing phony humanitarians like you. By the way thanks for the setup lines. I've got plenty more responses in my bag. You're an inspiration. :rolleyes:
You're exposing yourself as a fascist who would have done well in Hitler's Third Reich.
Thanks for WHAT? See what I mean...making stuff up as you go along. You have nothing to respond. You are just making noice. Nothing you say enriches this forum. You are not a participator but a destructive person who starts pissing contests in order to disturb any form of debate on this forum.
Dingo
08-11-2006, 06:14 PM
Hey Nazi enabler I'm waiting for the "Why are you here?" question. I haven't exhausted my bag of reasons yet. Do your job!
Gerry
08-11-2006, 06:15 PM
Hey Nazi enabler I'm waiting for the "Why are you here?" question. I haven't exhausted my bag of reasons yet. Do your job!
You are in need of attention. What happened puppy, did your girlfriend kick you out??
whitemajikman
08-11-2006, 06:16 PM
I'm waiting for the "Why are you here?" question. I haven't exhausted my bag of reasons yet
yes you have Andy...........
WMM
Gerry
08-11-2006, 06:24 PM
yes you have Andy...........
WMM
I have just put him on my ignore list.
Before you came on we had a round of at least 40 posts of inane one liners, name calling etc. He is here solely to disrupt the flow of debate. I believe in freedom of speech, but this is very deliberate disruption.
Dingo
08-11-2006, 06:48 PM
Gerry's belches are apparently pearls of wisdom but my cogent responses are a disruptive influence. Now Gerry is on a campaign to save the forum from me. Hmmmm, you first Whiteman. Put me on ignore. I order it Nazi boy!
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