4 Must Watch Videos - Courtesy of Klucker....Lib???

[Gerry]

"If Americans only knew"

http://brasscheck.com/videos/middleeast/me5.html

[Klucker]

Attaboy Gerry!!! ... more here:


Jackie Mason defends Mel Gibson

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gct84oE5DEE


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Galloway Rips Skynews a New One

George Galloway has spoken out in support of Lebanon, saying he believes Hizbollah is justified in attacking Israel. The Respect MP also lambasted media coverage of the war and said the UN resolution means nothing.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/video/videoplayer/0,,31200-galloway_060806,00.html


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[Gerry]

Thanks, I had already posted the Calloway video but it cannot be posted often enough.

I have listened to that exchange at least 5 times. Unbelievable he is. We need mor like him.

Keep up the good work.

[Gerry]

Bump

[Mark]

Good stuff. I'd love to see Galloway debate on the Sunday morning talk shows with Krauthammer or Leiberman or Dean (who called the Iraqi politician an anti-semite). You could sell some tickets.

[Gerry]

Good stuff. I'd love to see Galloway debate on the Sunday morning talk shows with Krauthammer or Leiberman or Dean (who called the Iraqi politician an anti-semite). You could sell some tickets.

Now there's a thought LOL Calloway and Dean.....Sparks would fly WHAT?

[Mark]

Now there's a thought LOL Calloway and Dean.....Sparks would fly WHAT?

You know, I just got to thinking (watch out)... it seems that recently, some Democrats have expressed support for John Bolton. Did I hear this correctly? If true, my theory would be that because he is heavily involved in the "cease-fire" negotiations, now it behooves the Democrats to support him as he is helping to represent Israel's interests...

But, I could be wrong.

[Gerry]

You know, I just got to thinking (watch out)... it seems that recently, some Democrats have expressed support for John Bolton. Did I hear this correctly? If true, my theory would be that because he is heavily involved in the "cease-fire" negotiations, now it behooves the Democrats to support him as he is helping to represent Israel's interests...

But, I could be wrong.

That comes accross as SO totally warped in my head...I'm getting a brain cramp. LOL
But who the hell knows.

[Klucker]

Is this what's in store for us?:

Dark Ages America: The Final Phase of Empire. By Morris Berman. Book review.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0393058662/102-9083181-5657704?v=glance&n=283155

[Bertrand]

Is this what's in store for us?:

Dark Ages America: The Final Phase of Empire. By Morris Berman. Book review.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0393058662/102-9083181-5657704?v=glance&n=283155

What empire?

It was aborted on delivery!

What an unbelievable historic event- DEAD ON ARRIVAL!

Indeed, these are great historic times in which we are living.

It is so exciting to be be alive to experience this while it is happening!

Amazing times... as the world is hurtling in space... and turning around... as usual... as if things are normal on this planet... and as usual... But nothing is farther from the truth!

Exciting times! Yes, dangerous... but very exciting!

[Mark]

What empire?

It was aborted on delivery!

What an unbelievable historic event- DEAD ON ARRIVAL!

Indeed, these are great historic times in which we are living.

It is so exciting to be be alive to experience this while it is happening!

Amazing times... as the world is hurtling in space... and turning around... as usual... as if things are normal on this planet... and as usual... But nothing is farther from the truth!

Exciting times! Yes, dangerous... but very exciting!

Experience what while it is happening? The destruction of our country? Are you an American citizen?

What I want is a new direction from our government. I want a new administration. I want change to occur at the ballot box because of our problems. I do not want our country to be destroyed or dead.

Is that what you are saying?

A citizen has the right to dissent and help change the people who run the country. If you want more, then I wonder about you.

[Gerry]

What empire?

It was aborted on delivery!

What an unbelievable historic event- DEAD ON ARRIVAL!

Indeed, these are great historic times in which we are living.

It is so exciting to be be alive to experience this while it is happening!

Amazing times... as the world is hurtling in space... and turning around... as usual... as if things are normal on this planet... and as usual... But nothing is farther from the truth!

Exciting times! Yes, dangerous... but very exciting!

I'm not sure I would use the word "exciting" Bertrand.
I find it rather sad and quite frightening.
Any BIG changes, and this will prove to be a big one, will include great upheaval and what form that will take may not be very pleasant for us.
Seeing the undoing of Bush and his clan may be a comfort but his destruction abroad and at home will have long term ramifications. So I agree with Mr. Berman unfortunately, but I fear for what is to come. It makes it therefore the more important to reach those who are in denial. some of whom are on this forum.

[Gerry]

[quote]What I want is a new direction from our government. I want a new administration. I want change to occur at the ballot box because of our problems. I do not want our country to be destroyed or dead. [/qiote]

WE set the direction of our Government by electing the people who do OUR bidding and not that of Corporate America. We also have the right to hold those responsible for this terrific disaster and expect restitution from those - Corporate and individuals alike- who bled this country and abused it. As for our so-called leaders, they belong in jail.

[Mark]

[quote]What I want is a new direction from our government. I want a new administration. I want change to occur at the ballot box because of our problems. I do not want our country to be destroyed or dead. [/qiote]

WE set the direction of our Government by electing the people who do OUR bidding and not that of Corporate America. We also have the right to hold those responsible for this terrific disaster and expect restitution from those - Corporate and individuals alike- who bled this country and abused it. As for our so-called leaders, they belong in jail.

I have no problem with our administration being held accountable for any crimes they may have committed. The sad part, is that vis a vis Israel, the Demcrats on reading from the same playbook as the Republicans.

As for Corporate America, I hope we can continue the momentum set by the convictions of Lay, Skilling, Ebers etc. But, I know that it is the laws of the land that really have the long-term impact on our country. CEO's come and go, but the laws that protect our pensions, safety and environment are where the rubber hits the road.

Unfortunately, the pendulum may have to swing far enough to hit a few people square in the eye before they realize the impact of the trends coming from our leaders.

[Gerry]

[QUOTE=Gerry]

I have no problem with our administration being held accountable for any crimes they may have committed. The sad part, is that vis a vis Israel, the Demcrats on reading from the same playbook as the Republicans.

Absolutely....Smart America agrees with you. Lieberman was defeated yesterday. I hope that sends a powerful message to the likes of Hillary Clinton and her ilk who are still ass kissing the warmongers.

As for Corporate America, I hope we can continue the momentum set by the convictions of Lay, Skilling, Ebers etc. But, I know that it is the laws of the land that really have the long-term impact on our country. CEO's come and go, but the laws that protect our pensions, safety and environment are where the rubber hits the road.

That's not enough...we need to get rid of all the special interest and need to completely CUT all of Corporates ties to any political organization, at the risk of imprisonment. It would also help considerably if we got rid of all the ThinkTanks. They are per definition NOT democratic.

Unfortunately, the pendulum may have to swing far enough to hit a few people square in the eye before they realize the impact of the trends coming from our leaders.

True, that is often the case

[Jay_Esbe]

Experience what while it is happening? The destruction of our country? Are you an American citizen?

What I want is a new direction from our government. I want a new administration. I want change to occur at the ballot box because of our problems. I do not want our country to be destroyed or dead..........

You need to be reconciled my friend. I say this not because it is MY wish that what is coming should come, but because you really need to open your eyes and understand the more metaphysical under-pinnings of what we're witnessing.

You say you are a Christian and I take that as a sincere statement by you because you've only evidenced a desire to arrive at the truth without prejudice as far as I've seen here.

You and I are residing in the belly of the beast. Now if you do not believe me at first when I tell you this, just say so and I will SHOW you that it is so.

You know -I assume- that the nations of this world are but temporary. I also assume that you know that incredible oppression and destruction is predicted.

Being "reconciled" is not easy. In fact, I will admit that it's close to impossible. It is for me anyway. Like you, I wanted to believe in what was around me, and naturally I did because fish accept the water without a question. As one fish to another, I'm telling you; you are in a bowl right now. What you see is both limited, AND distorted. The attempt to reconcile yourself will never succeed any further than understanding that what you and I see, is not what "is", unless or until we stop looking at it, and look at something else. Something outside of all this.

"America" is a lie. The more I learn, the clearer that fact becomes and the bigger it becomes. Someone wisely said "God judges man's heart, but as men, when judge men's actions". The lie exists between the intent, and the actions. All our lives we were taught the good intentions of our homeland. But the reality outside the fish-bowl is NOT good, nor will it be. The current crisis is one which has no good end for the nations, least of all this one. It is a moral dilema of epic proportions, for to understand this situation is to lose hope, yet as good people, we can not. Like a ship we know is destined to sink, we bail water anyway because there is nothing else we CAN do.

I don't have an "answer" Mark. I only have a list of non-answers so big it illustrates nothing but the fact of the fish-bowl.

Just realize that there is an allegience far above and beyond any country. Even your own.

[Gerry]

A very good analysis, unfortunately.

[Contumacious]

"If Americans only knew"

http://brasscheck.com/videos/middleeast/me5.html


Finally, a reporter with the testicular fortitude to tackle the bastards. You'll never see him in "60 Minutes".

[Mark]

You need to be reconciled my friend. I say this not because it is MY wish that what is coming should come, but because you really need to open your eyes and understand the more metaphysical under-pinnings of what we're witnessing.

You say you are a Christian and I take that as a sincere statement by you because you've only evidenced a desire to arrive at the truth without prejudice as far as I've seen here.

You and I are residing in the belly of the beast. Now if you do not believe me at first when I tell you this, just say so and I will SHOW you that it is so.

You know -I assume- that the nations of this world are but temporary. I also assume that you know that incredible oppression and destruction is predicted.

Being "reconciled" is not easy. In fact, I will admit that it's close to impossible. It is for me anyway. Like you, I wanted to believe in what was around me, and naturally I did because fish accept the water without a question. As one fish to another, I'm telling you; you are in a bowl right now. What you see is both limited, AND distorted. The attempt to reconcile yourself will never succeed any further than understanding that what you and I see, is not what "is", unless or until we stop looking at it, and look at something else. Something outside of all this.

"America" is a lie. The more I learn, the clearer that fact becomes and the bigger it becomes. Someone wisely said "God judges man's heart, but as men, when judge men's actions". The lie exists between the intent, and the actions. All our lives we were taught the good intentions of our homeland. But the reality outside the fish-bowl is NOT good, nor will it be. The current crisis is one which has no good end for the nations, least of all this one. It is a moral dilema of epic proportions, for to understand this situation is to lose hope, yet as good people, we can not. Like a ship we know is destined to sink, we bail water anyway because there is nothing else we CAN do.

I don't have an "answer" Mark. I only have a list of non-answers so big it illustrates nothing but the fact of the fish-bowl.

Just realize that there is an allegience far above and beyond any country. Even your own.

Jay,

I appreciate your comments. I am not so naive as to think that we are not being lied to and controlled. I threw in the towel long ago as to my ability to "change the world." Ghandhi or MLK, I am not. I'm just rolling along here trying to learn some things, so I can at least feel informed the next time I vote. I have debates with fellow Christians about how we should respond to the acts of war and it's hard to break through because I think they (in good faith) believe our country to be threatened.

My Christian beliefs may be delusional, but they are mine and I do not agree with anyone who thinks we should foist them upon other people. My God knows that I have doubts about his existence and he knows that I have serious doubts about the Bible (especially the part about how the Jews wrote the book which is the title to Palestine). So, I can't prove my God exists and it makes me a quiet Christian.

I want my two kids to grow up in a safe environment. Mabye that's why I worry about the destruction of America. We need something radical to happen and the most radical thing that might ever happen beyond our destruction, would be for us to treat the Arab nations the same way we treat Israel. We need to stop worrying about Zionism. It's not our problem.

I don't recall the message of faith being a call to seize real estate. It seems to me that all I am asked to do is to accept Jesus as my savior. And even if the requirement was for me to go to Israel and kill Palestinians, then I wouldn't be a Christian. But, that is not the requirement, so it is clear to me that we should stop fighting Israel's battle. They don't even believe in Jesus, so it is a very big puzzle to me.

Oh yeah, I need to buy a hybrid. That will be my other big act to "change the world."

[Jay_Esbe]

Jay,

I appreciate your comments. I am not so naive as to think that we are not being lied to and controlled. I threw in the towel long ago as to my ability to "change the world." Ghandhi or MLK, I am not. I'm just rolling along here trying to learn some things, so I can at least feel informed the next time I vote. I have debates with fellow Christians about how we should respond to the acts of war and it's hard to break through because I think they (in good faith) believe our country to be threatened.

My Christian beliefs may be delusional, but they are mine and I do not agree with anyone who thinks we should foist them upon other people. My God knows that I have doubts about his existence and he knows that I have serious doubts about the Bible (especially the part about how the Jews wrote the book which is the title to Palestine). So, I can't prove my God exists and it makes me a quiet Christian.

I want my two kids to grow up in a safe environment. Mabye that's why I worry about the destruction of America. We need something radical to happen and the most radical thing that might ever happen beyond our destruction, would be for us to treat the Arab nations the same way we treat Israel. We need to stop worrying about Zionism. It's not our problem.

I don't recall the message of faith being a call to seize real estate. It seems to me that all I am asked to do is to accept Jesus as my savior. And even if the requirement was for me to go to Israel and kill Palestinians, then I wouldn't be a Christian. But, that is not the requirement, so it is clear to me that we should stop fighting Israel's battle. They don't even believe in Jesus, so it is a very big puzzle to me.

Oh yeah, I need to buy a hybrid. That will be my other big act to "change the world."


It's kind of ironic. To me, it's seems you're a good Christian with an admitted lack of faith, while on the other hand, I'm a very bad one who's got little doubt any more. Trust me, my end is easier, and I truly commend you for not being an obnoxious jack-ass with your religion. God knows there are enough of those.

You might find a reply I gave to another poster in the other forum to have some useful scripture that I happen to believe directly addresses where we are right now:
http://forums.ariannaonline.com/showthread.php?t=45022&page=2

Hybrid: No, don't do it. Believe me, it's destined to become obsolete technology, and worst of all, you will be looking at spending 5 to 6 THOUSAND dollars on a new battery at 50,000 miles.
It's a dumb concept in my opinion; It's enormously complex, having two complete power plants, it's too expensive when you buy it, and when you have to add another 5 grand onto the cost at half of the vehicle's life, well, you can buy one hell of a lot of gasoline for the twelve thousand dollars you spent over the cost on something else. Besides, there are in fact non-hybrid cars that get 45+ MPG anyway.

My two cents.

[Mark]

It's kind of ironic. To me, it's seems you're a good Christian with an admitted lack of faith, while on the other hand, I'm a very bad one who's got little doubt any more. Trust me, my end is easier, and I truly commend you for not being an obnoxious jack-ass with your religion. God knows there are enough of those.

You might find a reply I gave to another poster in the other forum to have some useful scripture that I happen to believe directly addresses where we are right now:
http://forums.ariannaonline.com/showthread.php?t=45022&page=2

Hybrid: No, don't do it. Believe me, it's destined to become obsolete technology, and worst of all, you will be looking at spending 5 to 6 THOUSAND dollars on a new battery at 50,000 miles.
It's a dumb concept in my opinion; It's enormously complex, having two complete power plants, it's too expensive when you buy it, and when you have to add another 5 grand onto the cost at half of the vehicle's life, well, you can buy one hell of a lot of gasoline for the twelve thousand dollars you spent over the cost on something else. Besides, there are in fact non-hybrid cars that get 45+ MPG anyway.

My two cents.

Good Christian or bad Christian, it all depends on what's in your heart. I think many of the thing that you and FBWC say. I've even said them many times. I lived a life of hedonism for many years and I have yet to truly pay for it. The doubts come from the inconsistencies in the Bible and the evil that exists in the world. All I can do is try to take care of things on my end.

As for the hybrid, I'd heard the battery costs $2K and you can the replacement as part of a maintenance contract. I haven't really looked into it that much. You see quite a few of them here in Austin. I know a Corolla is a pretty good car that gets a good MPG. Mainly, I want high gas mileage and a great sterero. Got to have your tunes....

[Gerry]

As I grow older I have less interest in religion and far more faith in my very own divinity and inate goodness. The God I find in any church is the one I brought in with ME. That tells me I don;t need a church. Life is a constant searching...a constant learning process....I hope that what I believe today will evolve so that I will be able to see things differently tomorrow or next week based on a greater awareness one gains by searching and a willingness to recognize truth however painful that may be. God is within us all, the good and the bad. Accepting that may be one of the hardest things.

Churches, by definition, are a breeding ground for indoctrination. They instill fear , and because most people join a church for fear of eternal damnation they are easily indoctrinated to feel unsafe unless we engage in some sort of war somewhere. Which probably explains why so many of the fundamentalist Christians are so gung ho about going to Iraq and now Israel as well as Iran, however conflicting that is with the message of Jesus.

[Gerry]

Good Christian or bad Christian, it all depends on what's in your heart. I think many of the thing that you and FBWC say. I've even said them many times. I lived a life of hedonism for many years and I have yet to truly pay for it. The doubts come from the inconsistencies in the Bible and the evil that exists in the world. All I can do is try to take care of things on my end.

I don't know what a life of hedonism is except that it's a accusatory Christian terms, condemning your previous conduct. Rather negative. Our salvation cannot be found in a book. It is found within our HIGHER selves, It's the place where Jesus says the Kingdom of God is.

As for the hybrid, I'd heard the battery costs $2K and you can the replacement as part of a maintenance contract. I haven't really looked into it that much. You see quite a few of them here in Austin. I know a Corolla is a pretty good car that gets a good MPG. Mainly, I want high gas mileage and a great sterero. Got to have your tunes....

LP gas is a terrific alternative that has been very popular in Europe for YEARS. They install an LP tank in your trunk. You can switch back to gasoline when the LP gas is low or empty and motor on intil you can fill it up again at the gasoline station. Most of them have LPgas. Filling it up, to ME, is rather scary because it has a totally different nozzle and a airtight clamp and it makes a popping sound when you remove it, at least it was for me, but I was a novice at it . Very inexpensive to run and clean for the environment. Hydrogen is another thing they are experimenting with. They had, maybe still have, 6 proto-type Hydrogen City busses riding around Amsterdam, I think also in Berlin and in Spain or Portugal somewhere. Busses was designed and built in Germany. Various EU governments funded these busses. Evidently they were a hit and worked well as per the article below.
http://www.detnews.com/2005/autosinsider/0501/14/autos-60181.htm

[Bertrand]

As I grow older I have less interest in religion and far more faith in my very own divinity and inate goodness. The God I find in any church is the one I brought in with ME. That tells me I don;t need a church. Life is a constant searching...a constant learning process....I hope that what I believe today will evolve so that I will be able to see things differently tomorrow or next week based on a greater awareness one gains by searching and a willingness to recognize truth however painful that may be. God is within us all, the good and the bad. Accepting that may be one of the hardest things.

Churches, by definition, are a breeding ground for indoctrination. They instill fear , and because most people join a church for fear of eternal damnation they are easily indoctrinated to feel unsafe unless we engage in some sort of war somewhere. Which probably explains why so many of the fundamentalist Christians are so gung ho about going to Iraq and now Israel as well as Iran, however conflicting that is with the message of Jesus.

Beautifully and eloquently stated.

I fully agree with you, Gerry.

If your thinking and evolvement into spirituality... finds critical mass in humans on this planet... the world would become a better place.

You are exceptionally ahead of the times... and in contrast with limited minds/thinking like Lib, Dumbo, FBWC, et al. Through their posts... full of insults and labels... they only reveal their own ignorance and limitedness.

Salute, Lady.

[Fair &Balanced Who Ca]

As I grow older I have less interest in religion and far more faith in my very own divinity and inate goodness.

I have no doubt about that. You know, that is some of the worst blind faith I have heard of. I can't imagine anything inspires it beyond sheer insanity.

[Gerry]

Beautifully and eloquently stated.

I fully agree with you, Gerry.

If your thinking and evolvement into spirituality... finds critical mass in humans on this planet... the world would become a better place.

You are exceptionally ahead of the times... and in contrast with limited minds/thinking like Lib, Dumbo, FBWC, et al. Through their posts... full of insults and labels... they only reveal their own ignorance and limitedness.

Salute, Lady.


The majority of people don't need to be "born again"....they just need to grow up and understand that they don't need a big father, a church or a government to tell them what to do.
Grown up means to understand that there is NO salvation via another person - no quick fix - but that each and every one of us needs to take responsibility for their own life, in how we walk the walk and how we treat our fellow men/women. Religion is not about talking but about walking. It is a constant search as to WHO & WHAT we are that takes a lifetime.....So to hear the instant formulas preached in the churches of today is snake-oil. God said "I am that I am" Outside God there is no other. What that tells us is that we're ALL connected. We 're all ONE with God. So when we engage in killings we kill part of ourselves. We therefore do not need indoctrination or to be told by a priest/minister/mullah or rabbi what God wants of us. Who made THEM the experts?? At most they speak for themselves not for anyone else.
When we go inside where Jesus tells us the Kingdom of God is, we will find every answer to every question we've ever had. I believe there is a change, a far greater awareness than 10 years ago. Churches may be emptying but in its place comes an inner awareness which leads to a far greater understanding and knowledge.

Peace

[Gerry]

Bump for those who need to see the videos

[Bertrand]

The majority of people don't need to be "born again"....they just need to grow up and understand that they don't need a big father, a church or a government to tell them what to do.
Grown up means to understand that there is NO salvation via another person - no quick fix - but that each and every one of us needs to take responsibility for their own life, in how we walk the walk and how we treat our fellow men/women. Religion is not about talking but about walking. It is a constant search as to WHO & WHAT we are that takes a lifetime.....So to hear the instant formulas preached in the churches of today is snake-oil. God said "I am that I am" Outside God there is no other. What that tells us is that we're ALL connected. We 're all ONE with God. So when we engage in killings we kill part of ourselves. We therefore do not need indoctrination or to be told by a priest/minister/mullah or rabbi what God wants of us. Who made THEM the experts?? At most they speak for themselves not for anyone else.
When we go inside where Jesus tells us the Kingdom of God is, we will find every answer to every question we've ever had. I believe there is a change, a far greater awareness than 10 years ago. Churches may be emptying but in its place comes an inner awareness which leads to a far greater understanding and knowledge.

Peace

One can observe that a slob, ignoramus, or closed mind... does not and will not change... just by declaring to the world that he is 'born again'... and he/she still will be the same slob, ignoramus, and blinded follower... unless one works hard at it and seek to grow in knowledge of the higher self within himself/herself and gain that higher awareness... in a process...

Just consider GWB the 'born again' 'Christian' as one glaring example... A criminal! Does anyone care which church or branch of Christianity he belongs to?

[Gerry]

One can observe that a slob, ignoramus, or closed mind... does not and will not change... just by declaring to the world that he is 'born again'... and he/she still will be the same slob, ignoramus, and blinded follower... unless one works hard at it and seek to grow in knowledge of the higher self within himself/herself and gain that higher awareness... in a process...

Just consider GWB the 'born again' 'Christian' as one glaring example... A criminal! Does anyone care which church or branch of Christianity he belongs to?

Those "born again" are sleepwalking someone elses path, not their own. They believe in snake-oil. "By their actions ye shall know them" Jesus said. We sure do. Simpletons. But there IS an awareness out there. Far more so than 10 years ago. Just listen to the world which now recognizes the horror in Palestine, and Israel's cause of it. The world is no longer silent. It does not want to be held hostage by a small sliver of land occupied by well armed aggressors, because it is negatively affecting the whole world. They are exposing the false PR campaigns by Israel that until now have been SO successful using the fraudulent tool of "anti-semitism"whenever anyone criticizes them, even pointing out the 65 U.N. resolutions condemning their aggression. It's been exposed for what it is around the world except here in the U.S. That will cost us dearly, I'm afraid.

[Bertrand]

Those "born again" are sleepwalking someone elses path, not their own. They believe in snake-oil. "By their actions ye shall know them" Jesus said. We sure do. Simpletons. But there IS an awareness out there. Far more so than 10 years ago. Just listen to the world which now recognizes the horror in Palestine, and Israel's cause of it. The world is no longer silent. It does not want to be held hostage by a small sliver of land occupied by well armed aggressors, because it is negatively affecting the whole world. They are exposing the false PR campaigns by Israel that until now have been SO successful using the fraudulent tool of "anti-semitism"whenever anyone criticizes them, even pointing out the 65 U.N. resolutions condemning their aggression. It's been exposed for what it is around the world except here in the U.S. That will cost us dearly, I'm afraid.

Gerry, I knew in 2003, that this was going to be where things will have to go... no matter how tortuous the road may be... eventually it will end up with the truth coming out. Facts are stubborn things and no power on earth can overcome the Karmic Law. No manmade 'holy' scriptures, and manmade deity is going to go against the Universe for too long... anyway.

Once the world's sole superpower violated international laws and rules... I knew the unravelling had started for Bush's policies around the world. When it was proven the Iraqi invasion was based on lies, deception, and trickery... their fate was doomed to failure... and only a matter of time.

All reasons and excuses used to justify genocide will no more work in our modern times... as it's against mankind and it's survival. Anybody using ANY reason or reason will fail... to restore balance and equity.

That is how things work in nature as shown to us by science. Water always will seek it's level and balance. Falcity and distortion in our modern times can only go so far... and that is why the wrongdoers are being more and more isolated... no matter how powerful they may be and no matter who is their deity- manmade projections called god, allah or jehovah - while they go on their binge of 'might is right' and 'pre-emptive stike' and spreading 'democracy' and 'freedom' while denying justice and mutual respect to ALL people!

[Gerry]

I knew too, but it has taken so many years and so many innocent lives, and untold suffering.

My heart bleeds. and I hope that this will be the last of the aggressions unless something worse has to happen for the people of the world to really stand up and stop this madness. I hope not.