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whitemajikman
11-24-2005, 10:50 AM
Israeli War Crimes


In a speech recently, President Bush says Israel has a right to defend itself against terror but he made no mention of Israel's government's "war crimes."

Israel has a right to defend itself against terrorism, but does Israel's government have a right to kill innocent Palestinians?

Does Israel's government have a right to fabricate excuses that no one can confirm as reasons to ethnically cleanse areas of the occupied lands?

Does Israel's government have a right to steal lands, expel its Christian and Muslim Palestinian inhabitants and replace them with Jewish refugees who claim a "right of return" that they deny to others?

Does Israel's government have a right to violate the Geneva Conventions, commit war crimes and literally impose a new form of Apartheid on the occupied population?

Bush was addressing AIPAC (American Israel Public Affairs Council), a foreign lobbying organization that has as much power in this country as the Electoral College.

AIPAC defends Israel's government's right to do whatever it wishes and is silent on its military abuses and atrocities against the Palestinians it occupies.

But rather than address AIPAC, Maybe Bush should have spoken to a gathering of Amnesty International, an organization that is objective and more dedicated to fairness, justice, truth and individual liberties on this planet than AIPAC.

This week, Amnesty issued a scathing 65-page report accusing Israel not only of violating the Geneva Conventions - which Israel does not recognize - but also of committing "war crimes." (You won't read much about the report in our media and you won't find it on the White House web page, so go to Amnesty's web page at <www.amnesty.org> and read it yourself.)

At least there is someone in this world who does not fear the power of AIPAC or the defamation of those who criticize Israel's government "war crimes."

The report said the demolition and destruction are ``grave breaches of the Fourth Geneva Convention and are war crimes'' Amnesty called on Israel to halt the practices immediately, and said the house demolitions are linked to Israeli intentions to take over West Bank and Gaza land.

Haven't people been saying that for years?

Amnesty reports "Families are forcibly evicted from their homes, often at night, without prior warning. They are given only a few minutes to leave their home and are not allowed to salvage their possession. The unprecedented scale of destruction has resulted in widespread violations of the right to adequate housing and standard of living for tens of thousands of people and violates fundamental principles of international human rights and humanitarian law.

It goes on to say, "In the Occupied Territories, demolitions are often carried out as collective punishments for Palestinian attacks or to facilitate the expansion of illegal Israeli settlements. Both practices contravene international law and some of these acts are war crimes.

The report is devastating and labels the Wall as a violation, too.

Amnesty concludes "Israel's right to take reasonable, necessary and proportionate measures to protect the security of its citizens does not allow such disproportionate and discriminatory restrictions and collective punishment, which violate international law."

What that means is this: the two kids at Columbine claimed they were being harassed and bullied by other students had a right to file formal complaints against the other students and to bring the harassment to an end.

They did not have the right to bring in their own weapons and wantonly murder other students as an act of revenge.

That's exactly what Israel's government is doing. Of course Israelis have a right to defend themselves, but not to do it in such a way that they are achieving other more sinister objectives such as the theft of Palestinian lands, which is the foundation of Israel's policies and actions.

I don't expect AIPAC to replace their blind support for Israel with truth and justice above. And, even tough I am an American who served during the Vietnam War and whose father and uncle served during World War II, I will be accused of being "anti-Semitic" just for repeating Amnesty International's conclusions.

But you might think that Bush, the guy who goes around the word lecturing everyone about civil rights, freedom, democracy and justice, might be less concerned with appeasing AIPAC. Bush should be more concerned about putting truth and justice above AIPAC's blind support for Israel, even if it is a presidential election year and he is stumbling in the polls.

Ray Hanania is the former National President of the Palestinian American Congress. He can be reached at: www.hanania.com.




WMM

Dingo
11-28-2005, 10:59 PM
Well I don't want to see this forum ghettoized so I will first say Hanania raises some completely legitimate points. I think if Hanania had been the example of how one conducts oneself in criticizing Israel, as hard hitting as he is, we wouldn't have needed this special forum. He doesn't push the protocols. He doesn't engage in Holocaust denial. He doesn't jew bait. His focus is on Israeli policy, American policy, Aipac, the Geneva standards, ethnic cleansing, Bush, concrete matters that can be argued about. I doubt he is too "pure" to talk about a two state solution.

It is curious that so many of you missed the chance to engage a wider group by the tactic of fronting legitimate issues and then turning normal discussions into screaming Jew baiting freak shows, big letters and all. It really is a shame because the Israeli - Palestinian issue needs a full airing since it is so critical to our relations with the ME and Muslim countries in general and our bias toward Israel has led to a lose lose lose situation all the way around. Maybe Libs approach will help turn things around so specific issues and not global caricatures become more the norm on these sort of threads.

I remember a time when extensive and productive discussions happened on this issue on AO but it has been a long time since that happened with the arrival of the peddlers of the invisible Zionist hand controlling the world.

co-nch
11-28-2008, 09:40 AM
Unlawful homes for Israeli settlers, demolitions for Palestinians

Palestinians begin rebuilding homes in Qawawis destroyed by the Israeli military.

© Christian Peacemaker Teams


Mobile homes for an illegal Israeli settlement in the Occupied Palestinian Territories (OPT) got the go-ahead within a week of Israeli bulldozers demolishing Palestinian homes and property in the area. It emerged last Wednesday that Israeli Defence Minister Ehud Barak has approved the transfer of five mobile homes to the Israeli settlement of Teneh Omarim in the region.

Only the week before, Israeli army bulldozers demolished nine homes and two livestock enclosures in several Palestinian villages in the southern occupied West Bank. The demolitions were carried out in the hamlets of Qawawis, Imneizil, al-Dairat and Umm Lasafa in the South Hebron Hills.

Those whose homes were demolished included families with children. In the villages of al-Dairat and Umm Lasafa, the Israeli army destroyed the homes of brothers Yasser and Jihad Mohammed al-'Adra, and Ismail al-'Adra. As a result, Yasser al-'Adra, his wife and six children, Jihad al-'Adra, his wife and their five children, and Ismail al-'Adra, his wife and their three children, were left homeless.

Expansion of Teneh Omarim and other illegal settlements in the OPT continues, in violation of international law that forbids an occupying power from transferring its civilian population into the territory that it occupies.

The Israeli settlements include neat, modern houses with electricity and water distribution systems. Palestinians have lived in the area for generations but none of their hamlets in the area are "recognized" by the Israeli authorities. This means they do not receive any services – light, water, sewage, education or health – and their homes and other structures may be demolished at any time.

Palestinian villagers are also prohibited for the most part from building new homes or building rain water harvesting cisterns to cater for a growing population or to assist development. No new structures can be built unless permits have first been obtained from the Israeli army, but such permits are invariably refused.

The South Hebron Hills, or Masafer Yatta as it is known to Palestinians, is an area in the southernmost area of the Occupied Palestinian Territories. Apart from small stone-built villages in the west of the area, many of the people live in tents and large caves.

Most of the Palestinians in the area are shepherds, but, in recent years, the scarcity of rain water has reduced the availability of grazing land for their flocks and their ability to cultivate their land. In addition, the frequent attacks by Israeli settlers and the increased restrictions imposed by the Israeli army on their movements have further reduced their access to grazing land and their ability to cultivate their land.

Israeli settlers, in contrast, have been allowed to appropriate more and more land. Palestinians have lived in the area since long before the creation of the state of Israel in 1948, though some Palestinians moved to the area when they were forced to leave their lands further south in 1948.

When Palestinian homes are demolished, other means of livelihood such as animal pens are also destroyed. Currently, the mosque in the village of al-Tuwani is under a demolition order, as is a schoolroom in the remote village of Dqaiqa.

Palestinian villagers are frequently harassed by Israeli settlers and Palestinian shepherds fear to graze their flocks near Israeli settlements.

International volunteers from the Christian Peacemaker Teams (CPT) and Operation Dove have had a presence in al-Tuwani, the largest village in the area, since 2004 in order to help protect the villagers and to record acts of violence and harassment against them. Israeli peace activists also visit frequently.

Following many settler attacks on Palestinian children going to school and their international escorts, the Israeli army now sends a military jeep to escort the schoolchildren. Sometimes, however, this escort arrives too late or fails to deter attacks.

Amnesty International is urging the Israeli authorities to cease demolishing Palestinian homes in the occupied Palestinian territories, cancel all demolition orders and take steps to prevent and punish settler attacks on Palestinians and on international observers seeking to protect them. The organisation is calling also for an immediate end to the construction or expansion of Israeli settlements in breach of international humanitarian law.

Dingo
11-29-2008, 12:53 PM
I wonder if cutting off aid to Israel would bring an end to all this Settler nonsense. It always seems to come back to a tribal ape thing. The RW Zionist tribalists and the Christian fundi end time dead enders seem to have the link to power on this issue. And the Settlers seem able to wag the Israeli dog when they start to get weary of this 41 year occupation in violation of UN Res. 242.

In politics for the most part we don't live in the world. We live in the world commonly of our own long cultivated grievances and dreams. The Native Americans hardly warranted a second glance as we carried our European grievances and hopes and aspirations into the New World.

A ruthless filter makes everything possible, including professed moral outrage thrown in the teeth of our own transparent morally corrupt behavior. I'm sure the Settlers feel quite moral as they bulldoze Palestinians out of their homes.

donni
12-09-2008, 10:32 PM
well they aren't.:rolleyes: hardly.

and many of them know what they do is seen as immoral by MOST standards but they don't care-they also KNOW they are the chosen.:rolleyes: