And this is the guy that ask that I be removed.....

[Fritz the Cat]

PED say to Cricket....

No cricket, I am not a lawyer, left fringe or otherwise, but I do know this your biased defense of the pig who is supposedly your son, is shrouded by your desire to render his most disgusting behavior as nothing more than humor. In which case, you syphilis infested whore, mind if I ask you why you didn’t pull the fucking baster out before you squeezed the bulb?

http://www.ariannaonline.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=9881&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=60&sid=ed4e2c6ceac2451c3a0637cc19d04394

[Islanders_for_the_cup_04]

PED wrote;
Just a figure of speech, hope you laughed.

You left that part off of the end Fritz. Its quite clear that PED is uing your tactics against someone else in this case Fritz. Ya know, kinda elbowing someone in the ribs to make a point.

[Fritz the Cat]

Islander-

I understand how he was using it...but it still does not mean he didn't use these words to attack a woman with. He can qualify it all he wants with the excuse that it is an example.

All it really shows it that he is as mean spirited as he makes me out to be....yet he doesn't have the balls to do it directly.....he has to set up a backdoor scenario befroe he can say what he wants to.

The guy is an impotent little troll that is trying as hard as he can to rile me up or get me booted...and he just can't do it.

[Fritz the Cat]

Islander-

Where was his joke here?

No it is you who loses all credibility, you have been exposed as a lying revengeful, hypocritical bicth

http://www.ariannaonline.com/phpBB2/index.php?sid=ed4e2c6ceac2451c3a0637cc19d04394

[Fritz the Cat]

Islander-

This one?

Yes I feel a bit sorry too, sorry that with carrots on hand she had to use a freaking baster filled with roach sperm.


this one?

As for him, well you know, ma barker used to bitch slap her boys before she made them roll in the hay with her. Can you blame the son of a bitch for taking out his hate on women?

[Islanders_for_the_cup_04]

I understand how he was using it...but it still does not mean he didn't use these words to attack a woman with. He can qualify it all he wants with the excuse that it is an example.

Fritz, my point is that if you want to get some one for going over the line then legitimatly get him. I'm not going to go over every single one of his posts because we will be here all day and that wasn't my point.

With the post you pointed out I think He was trying to make a piint and I don't buy the "Backdoor" excuse. Besides its gotten to a point with this discussion where the actual point has gotten lost and its all back and forth. Its all " he said, she said" bullshit.

I dont go after posters when they post borderline shit shit towards me. The only time I've gone after you is for the "dead mother" comment a few months ago and after you apologized I left it as a dead issue.

I go back and forth with Tayken a lot. There are some things that he's said and some things that I've said that are pretty borderline. For the most part we keep it as light hearted ball busting. If we were to go back and forth pointing them out we'd be here for months.

Better to just drop it and move on. If its that much of a problem try to find a common interest and chew the fat on it for a couple of days.

[Fritz the Cat]

Islander-

The fact remains, those who kkeep chasing me around and trying to play forum god...are just as guilty as I am and much more hypocritical.

[Islanders_for_the_cup_04]

Islander-

The fact remains, those who kkeep chasing me around and trying to play forum god...are just as guilty as I am and much more hypocritical.

Whats your definition of "forum god"?

One could make the assesment of you if you want to play that game. It could go on for days and it already has. I could call you a hypocrit for calling people out for woman bashing where, by the definition of others, you are guilty of the same thing.

I could say that you are backdooring the issue because you said you didn't have a problem with it when you are called on for doing the same thing. Whats the point to all of it?

[Fritz the Cat]

Islander-

The point of it is simple......

PED and later Esbe made a federal case out of my comments to Katie. Now how much you or they are willing to admit their ill-seeded and self absorbed reasoning is one thing. Both men (and I use that term loosely) took up a cause for a woman who didn't really seem to act like a victim all that much. Both men seemed to turn a blind eye to the fact that the very woman who they championed as a victim was at that very moment, chasing, baiting, egging me on and starting shit with me.

Both men, then themselves resorted to the same exact tactics they blamed me for in their fight against me....and both men still fail to see that.

Both men (and Katie) got some of what they asked for..an apology to Katie..but both men where so heel-bent on going after me that they found fault with my apology method...failing to realize that LIbs apology to Esbe regarding the locked thread was also done in private via a PM. Both men still can not get these simple facts through their thick self motivated skulls.

Now, I have seen the mean spirit and nastiness of both of these men here in the past..and I have made reference to it when they seek to point a hypocritical finger at me.

Now PED want to use me as a scape goat for his words and nastiness by trying to make it look like he has sadly been transformed into posting like me.


Islander...you and most of the people's here might very well have cause to chastise me for my words and tactics and I can take that like a man...but you all have been duped by PED and Esbe into thinking that they were carrying on this war with me with goon natured intent.. I call shenanigans. Pure revenge is what they were after. Revenge for making them look foolish in the past. Revenge for shooting holes in their half cocked arguments. Revenge out of biased partisanship. Revenge because they wish to silence me.

What you have is the insane trying to run the asylum....thank god people like Mike and Lib have leveler heads and understand the issues from a top down view instead of trying to see the forest from the trees.

You don't have to like me, but you should be happy that people like PED and Esbe are not taken seriously enough here to actually change policies to suit their selfish little needs. It might be me today...it could be you tomorrow.

P.S. I want you to note that our victim, Katie...is still starting threads with my name in them and still openly engaging me of her own volition. Can you explain hwo she expects to be taken seriousl as the stalked, trolled victim?

[Islanders_for_the_cup_04]

Islander...you and most of the people's here might very well have cause to chastise me for my words and tactics and I can take that like a man...but you all have been duped by PED and Esbe into thinking that they were carrying on this war with me with goon natured intent.. I call shenanigans. Pure revenge is what they were after. Revenge for making them look foolish in the past. Revenge for shooting holes in their half cocked arguments. Revenge out of biased partisanship. Revenge because they wish to silence me.

What you have is the insane trying to run the asylum....thank god people like Mike and Lib have leveler heads and understand the issues from a top down view instead of trying to see the forest from the trees.

You don't have to like me, but you should be happy that people like PED and Esbe are not taken seriously enough here to actually change policies to suit their selfish little needs. It might be me today...it could be you tomorrow.

Fritz the whole back and forth argument between all of you has gotten to the point where its all half cocked. As far as I'm concerned you apologized and thats enough. You did the last time you went over the line and we all dropped it and left it alone.

I liked what you had to say in this last post and I wish you had said that off the bat. I think everyone running around calling this person and that person a hypocrit is rather tiring and disruptive.

Sometimes people say the wrong things when they are trying to communicate something else and other times its pure sensationalism. I was trying to be objective in bringing talking to you about this. I don't really carry on conversations with PED, Katie or Joe Dawson so I don't pay much attention to them. Its not a personal thing its just the way things work out while I'm on this board.

I don't hold a low opinion of you personally because I don't really know you. I think you can be a pain in the ass sometimes but thats about it.

[Jay_Esbe]

Islander-

The point of it is simple......

PED and later Esbe made a federal case out of my comments to Katie. Now how much you or they are willing to admit their ill-seeded and self absorbed reasoning is one thing. Both men (and I use that term loosely) took up a cause for a woman who didn't really seem to act like a victim all that much. Both men seemed to turn a blind eye to the fact that the very woman who they championed as a victim was at that very moment, chasing, baiting, egging me on and starting shit with me.

Both men, then themselves resorted to the same exact tactics they blamed me for in their fight against me....and both men still fail to see that.

Both men (and Katie) got some of what they asked for..an apology to Katie..but both men where so heel-bent on going after me that they found fault with my apology method...failing to realize that LIbs apology to Esbe regarding the locked thread was also done in private via a PM. Both men still can not get these simple facts through their thick self motivated skulls.

Now, I have seen the mean spirit and nastiness of both of these men here in the past..and I have made reference to it when they seek to point a hypocritical finger at me.

Now PED want to use me as a scape goat for his words and nastiness by trying to make it look like he has sadly been transformed into posting like me.


Islander...you and most of the people's here might very well have cause to chastise me for my words and tactics and I can take that like a man...but you all have been duped by PED and Esbe into thinking that they were carrying on this war with me with goon natured intent.. I call shenanigans. Pure revenge is what they were after. Revenge for making them look foolish in the past. Revenge for shooting holes in their half cocked arguments. Revenge out of biased partisanship. Revenge because they wish to silence me.

What you have is the insane trying to run the asylum....thank god people like Mike and Lib have leveler heads and understand the issues from a top down view instead of trying to see the forest from the trees.

You don't have to like me, but you should be happy that people like PED and Esbe are not taken seriously enough here to actually change policies to suit their selfish little needs. It might be me today...it could be you tomorrow.

P.S. I want you to note that our victim, Katie...is still starting threads with my name in them and still openly engaging me of her own volition. Can you explain hwo she expects to be taken seriousl as the stalked, trolled victim?

Boo hoo hoo :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[cricket]

I would take great exception to the vile posts against me.....but I have considered the source. I find it quite interesting though that there is NO outrage from those who demanded an apology from Fritz for his behavior....? Is it the liberal way to punish one person for the actions of another....I thought that is what we are all up in arms about with regard to the BA>>>>>Now there is a name for that kind of thinking!!!

[Islanders_for_the_cup_04]

Cricket wrote;
Is it the liberal way to punish one person for the actions of another....I thought that is what we are all up in arms about with regard to the BA

Good question. Is it? Maybe you should ask Esbe if he's actually a liberal?

One thing that bothers me about this whole ordeal is your involvment in it. I havent attacked you, nor have I attacked Fritz but there is something to this dynamic that has me irked. I can only speak for myself and my relationship with my own parents but here it goes.

I don't have a great relationship with my mother. I was thrown out when I was 14 and lived in a group home until I was 19. During this period I got into a lot of arguments with my mother but we have managed to somewhat heal the relationship.

As ugly as our arguments were we always maintained some semblence of respect. Even while I was in the group home I argued with people on some serious subjects but managed to keep a certain level of respect with them. In that, I mean I would never refer to someone as a "cunt", make fun of someones deceased parent, ever wish for someones teeth to be kicked in and wind up dead on a cold slab.

If I dead I don't think my parents or anyone else that cared for me would really back me up regardless of the situation. I would imagine that there would have to be a serious threat to my well being in order for them to do so. A threat the certainly doesnt exist on a message board. Which leads me to something else.

If I was on the same message board as one of my parents I would be pretty embarassed to use that kind of language in front of them. Don't get me wrong, I curse like a sailor in fron of them sometimes but there are certain things that I won't say. I can only speak of my own relationship with my parents on this.

But, with that said, it does lead me to wonder who you are if you are who you claim to be. I think other posters might wonder the same thing so it might be better off to let them go at it and hope they eventually get bored.