chemmies discuss "destroying chemtrail plasmas"

[jayreynolds]

The idea of chemmies considering aiming large mirrors into the sky is bothersome to me.

A person following the suggested course of action in the posting below could easily find themselves potentially liable under the Patriot Act and other statutes for "interfering with flight crews". The penalty is 20 years to life in prison.
TITLE 49 > SUBTITLE VII > PART A > subpart iv > CHAPTER 465
http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode49/usc_sec_49_00046504----000-.html
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Even being peripherally involved in causing threats to be made against aircraft is a violation, and worth five years in prison:
TITLE 49 > SUBTITLE VII > PART A > subpart iv > CHAPTER 465 > § 46507
http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode49/usc_sec_49_00046507----000-.html
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Chemmies need to carefully consider their personal role in this controversy, and the possible consequences, however remote from illegal activities their own actions may appear. Every one of your people who promote the hoax bears some moral responsibility for the actions of the group as a whole, even if they would not be considered criminally involved. You have the opportunity to speak out and set the record straight, and need to do so.

A clear message needs to go out among your people that tells them you have no idea whether or not the planes they are told are spraying dangerous chemicals, or just making ordinary contrails.

Even implying that aircraft seen making persistent contrails might be engaged in illegal activity causing imminent harm could very easily result in someone, believing they were in danger(as they were told), deciding to take action harmful to aircraft.

If such an event ever happens, I intend to do whatever I can to help initiate a grand jury investigation. I intend to offer testimony to State and Federal grand juries as to whom the ringleaders have been, who is aware that ordinary commercial flights are being portrayed as something else, and who has promoted the hoax for profiit. None of you will escape scrutiny for the parts you play.

Have no misconceptions that the above statement is idle bluster.
I am very serious in this regard
Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
Jay Reynolds
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billder





Joined: 02 Feb 2002
Posts: 256
Location: Hachita New Mexico USA Chemtrail Plasmas Destroyed with Ground Based Mirrors Mon Oct 03, 2005 3:26 am


RESEARCH THE ENTIRE PATENT, AND EXPERIMENT FOR YOURSELF....

EARLY EXPERIMENTS SHOW TRANSMISSION OF EM (SOLAR) ENERGY FROM GROUND INTO IONIC PLASMAS AND SPRAYED AURAS DESTROYS/DISRUPTS THEM RATHER WELL...BELOW THE PATENT EXCERPT IS A LINK ON HOW TO BUILD REALLY POWERFUL MIRRORS FOR BEAMS...VERY EASY, VERY CHEAP...I AM SURE THE GOVERNMENT WELFARE BABIES WHOSE JOBS DEPEND ON MISINFORMING THE PUBLIC WILL TRY TO REFUTE THIS, BUT ALL I CAN SAY IS TRY IT YOU'LL LIKE IT!!! I THINK THIS IS ILLEGAL FOR THE GUY ON THE STREET -- (FCC) -- BECAUSE IT WORKS SO WELL AGAINST THE NWO TECHNOLOGY OF CONTROL. THE BIGGER THE MIRRORS THE BETTER, THOUGH ON A TOTALLY OVERCAST DAY IT DOES NOT WORK; OTHER ENERGIES CAN THEN BE TRANSMITTED FOR VARIOUS EFFECTS.

United States Patent 5,556,029
Griese September 17, 1996
Method of hydrometeor dissipation
A method of dissipating hydrometeors (clouds) that includes transmitting electromagnetic radiation (e.g., light energy, from the sun, for example) that is absorbed by water vapor into the cloud to be dissipated and continuing the transmission of such energy into the cloud until it dissipates. The source of electromagnetic radiation can be a large mirror located on the surface of the earth, that reflects sunlight into the cloud to be dissipated. In a still more specific embodiment of the invention, the wind speed, direction, cloud altitude and sun movement relative to the earth is tracked to determine the mirror orientation and tracking necessary to disperse a particular cloud or clouds. In addition, an array of earth-mounted mirrors could be utilized in a coordinated fashion to dissipate a group or larger volume of clouds.

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http://www.amasci.com/amateur/mirror.html

INFINITELY LARGE SOLAR FURNACE

GOOD INFO ON MAKING SPECIALTY MIRRORS FOR EM (SOLAR) BEAMS.

-----------------
THESE PLASMAS IN THE PRESENTATION BELOW ARE TIA TECH DARPA TIME DOMAIN CORPORATION HUNTSVILLE ALABAMA AND ARE DESTROYED VERY QUICKLY WITH ANY DISRUPTION TO THE ACTIVE AURORA, ESPECIALLY GROUND BASED ENERGY BEAMS OR OTHER TRANSMISSIONS---SOME CHARGED ION PLASMAS USED IN WARFARE:

http://www.luxefaire.com/chargedionplasmas/index.html

Thats nothing!
Posted by: carl sagan at Sep 29, 2005 15:49

If you were up to date on gallinium saturated Ionispheric inversion tendencies when exposed to pulsating long wave IR radiation you would know this layer can be more than just tilted, it can move on 5 axis each independent of the next. with an area of influence with a radius equaling the inverse cube of the IR radiation in megawatts.

[Insurrectionchemistry]

Looks like Jay Reynolds is going deeper over the edge again. Delusional he is.

Next he'll go after all the "Orgonne Energy" people, as well as the ones that don't know the definition of plasma.

GOP's "Mighty Mouse" Jay Reynolds will cry out "Here I come to Save the Day" and get those people wishing those clouds away.

Now Jay Reynolds buys these pipe organ hoax and is shown the fool he has become.

No serious minds pay much attention to the general garbage off CTC, but Mighty Mouse Reynolds does.

What an idiot. You go get em, bad boy Reynolds. You will someday take over the "Tom and Jerry" primetime timeslot.

Meanwhile, the climate emergency issues are real:

http://www.skyhighway.com/~chemtrails/


http://www.skyhighway.com/~chemtrails/


Mighty GOP Jum-Bo, Get a life.

[Yaak]

from Jim "Hoaxer" Phelps:

Meanwhile, the climate emergency issues are real:

http://www.skyhighway.com/~chemtrails/ (http://www.skyhighway.com/%7Echemtrails/)

Sorry, Jim, but there was nothing real on that website; just chemmies, including you and Halva, parroting each other. There wasn't one speck of evidence presented, just wild ideas and childish speculation.

Where's the proof?

[whitemajikman]

Sorry, Jim, but there was nothing real on that website; just chemmies, including you and Halva, parroting each other. There wasn't one speck of evidence presented, just wild ideas and childish speculation.

Where's the proof?


Ed Proof You Will Never Find ......For Your Skepticism Has Already passed Judgement .........

WMM

[Et in Arcadia ego]

Jay, I agree that it's a delicate issue. I will forward your remarks to the CTC moderators. The CTC policy as I have come to understand it as a non-moderating community member is one that is averse to negative actions that could be construed as falling beneath the Patriot Act. I cannot speak for Bilder, or anyone else for that matter, but my position on the phenomenon(or lack of) is solely limited to one of an ametuer photographer, and not once have I ever advanced the idea that aggressive actions be taken against pilots or their craft in any way, shape, or form.

I find persistent contrails to be an engaging subject for photography, but advance no theories on what they actually are, and have not for some time, as I limit myself to my own obervations and have almost completely turned my back on all available internet data that speaks for or against the phenomenon's validity. It's been discussed between us in the past my employing Flight Explorer to determine who and when the persistent contrails are produced, and I have every intention of logging this data whenever it's feasable. In the meantime, however, publishing my images is not something that I feel could stand up in court as an inflammatory catalyst to compell radicals to take desctructive acts into their own hands, and I wholeheartedly reject any such behaviors catagorically. If I must clarify the legality of posting my photographs online, I will do so, as I feel I am WELL within my rights to do so.

I'll discuss this further with the moderators, and thanks for clarifying your position.

Thanks,
Donovan

[foot_soldier]

Chemmies.. Watermelons..
Commie-Liberal Pukes.. Prepare to PAY for your sins..
Chemmies.. Watermelons.. Commie-Liberal Pukes..
Prepare to PAY for your sins.. Chemmies..
Watermelons.. Commie-Liberal Pukes..
Prepare to PAY for your sins..
AWK.. AWK.. AWK..
http://www.petparrot.com/images/Catalina2.jpg
Jay "It's My Duty" Reynolds

[Insurrectionchemistry]

Parrots are 100 times smarter.

22 more indictments commeth.

[halva]

Raynolds' pride was hurt by my challenge to go on the offensive again.

The only way he can do it is by roping us into controversies from elsewhere, like CTC, where he can find some grist for his perennial mill of danger-mongering.

I reiterate my assertion that on the Mother Nature thread, the thread that started it all here at Arianna's, he has lost!

[jayreynolds]

Raynolds' pride was hurt by my challenge to go on the offensive again.

The only way he can do it is by roping us into controversies from elsewhere, like CTC, where he can find some grist for his perennial mill of danger-mongering.

I reiterate my assertion that on the Mother Nature thread, the thread that started it all here at Arianna's, he has lost!


Well, old bean, have another look at the bottom line before you begin making such claims:
http://www.ariannaonline.com/forums/showthread.php?p=395779#post395779

[Insurrectionchemistry]

Parrots are 1000 times smarter.

[jayreynolds]

The idea of chemmies considering aiming large mirrors into the sky is bothersome to me.

A person following the suggested course of action in the posting below could easily find themselves potentially liable under the Patriot Act and other statutes for "interfering with flight crews". The penalty is 20 years to life in prison.
TITLE 49 > SUBTITLE VII > PART A > subpart iv > CHAPTER 465
http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode49/usc_sec_49_00046504----000-.html
-------------------------------------------------
Even being peripherally involved in causing threats to be made against aircraft is a violation, and worth five years in prison:
TITLE 49 > SUBTITLE VII > PART A > subpart iv > CHAPTER 465 > § 46507
http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode49/usc_sec_49_00046507----000-.html
---------------------------------------------------------
Chemmies need to carefully consider their personal role in this controversy, and the possible consequences, however remote from illegal activities their own actions may appear. Every one of your people who promote the hoax bears some moral responsibility for the actions of the group as a whole, even if they would not be considered criminally involved. You have the opportunity to speak out and set the record straight, and need to do so.

A clear message needs to go out among your people that tells them you have no idea whether or not the planes they are told are spraying dangerous chemicals, or just making ordinary contrails.

Even implying that aircraft seen making persistent contrails might be engaged in illegal activity causing imminent harm could very easily result in someone, believing they were in danger(as they were told), deciding to take action harmful to aircraft.

If such an event ever happens, I intend to do whatever I can to help initiate a grand jury investigation. I intend to offer testimony to State and Federal grand juries as to whom the ringleaders have been, who is aware that ordinary commercial flights are being portrayed as something else, and who has promoted the hoax for profiit. None of you will escape scrutiny for the parts you play.

Have no misconceptions that the above statement is idle bluster.
I am very serious in this regard
Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
Jay Reynolds
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billder





Joined: 02 Feb 2002
Posts: 256
Location: Hachita New Mexico USA Chemtrail Plasmas Destroyed with Ground Based Mirrors Mon Oct 03, 2005 3:26 am


RESEARCH THE ENTIRE PATENT, AND EXPERIMENT FOR YOURSELF....

EARLY EXPERIMENTS SHOW TRANSMISSION OF EM (SOLAR) ENERGY FROM GROUND INTO IONIC PLASMAS AND SPRAYED AURAS DESTROYS/DISRUPTS THEM RATHER WELL...BELOW THE PATENT EXCERPT IS A LINK ON HOW TO BUILD REALLY POWERFUL MIRRORS FOR BEAMS...VERY EASY, VERY CHEAP...I AM SURE THE GOVERNMENT WELFARE BABIES WHOSE JOBS DEPEND ON MISINFORMING THE PUBLIC WILL TRY TO REFUTE THIS, BUT ALL I CAN SAY IS TRY IT YOU'LL LIKE IT!!! I THINK THIS IS ILLEGAL FOR THE GUY ON THE STREET -- (FCC) -- BECAUSE IT WORKS SO WELL AGAINST THE NWO TECHNOLOGY OF CONTROL. THE BIGGER THE MIRRORS THE BETTER, THOUGH ON A TOTALLY OVERCAST DAY IT DOES NOT WORK; OTHER ENERGIES CAN THEN BE TRANSMITTED FOR VARIOUS EFFECTS.

United States Patent 5,556,029
Griese September 17, 1996
Method of hydrometeor dissipation
A method of dissipating hydrometeors (clouds) that includes transmitting electromagnetic radiation (e.g., light energy, from the sun, for example) that is absorbed by water vapor into the cloud to be dissipated and continuing the transmission of such energy into the cloud until it dissipates. The source of electromagnetic radiation can be a large mirror located on the surface of the earth, that reflects sunlight into the cloud to be dissipated. In a still more specific embodiment of the invention, the wind speed, direction, cloud altitude and sun movement relative to the earth is tracked to determine the mirror orientation and tracking necessary to disperse a particular cloud or clouds. In addition, an array of earth-mounted mirrors could be utilized in a coordinated fashion to dissipate a group or larger volume of clouds.

---------------------------
http://www.amasci.com/amateur/mirror.html

INFINITELY LARGE SOLAR FURNACE

GOOD INFO ON MAKING SPECIALTY MIRRORS FOR EM (SOLAR) BEAMS.

-----------------
THESE PLASMAS IN THE PRESENTATION BELOW ARE TIA TECH DARPA TIME DOMAIN CORPORATION HUNTSVILLE ALABAMA AND ARE DESTROYED VERY QUICKLY WITH ANY DISRUPTION TO THE ACTIVE AURORA, ESPECIALLY GROUND BASED ENERGY BEAMS OR OTHER TRANSMISSIONS---SOME CHARGED ION PLASMAS USED IN WARFARE:

http://www.luxefaire.com/chargedionplasmas/index.html

Thats nothing!
Posted by: carl sagan at Sep 29, 2005 15:49

If you were up to date on gallinium saturated Ionispheric inversion tendencies when exposed to pulsating long wave IR radiation you would know this layer can be more than just tilted, it can move on 5 axis each independent of the next. with an area of influence with a radius equaling the inverse cube of the IR radiation in megawatts.

Interesting how the posting at CTC I was complaining about above has disappeared.

[Insurrectionchemistry]

Not really---both CTC and Jay Reynolds are delusional.

We have managed to show that Donovan (ET) and Jay Reynolds are working well together and even use the same styled threats. ET is playing up the chemtrails photos the CTC people then say cause droughts and so they need mirrors to blind aircrafts.

Odd how the facts seem to appear. It is the guilty Jay Reynolds covering up for he and his oil and power generation pals damages to the environment that is the real culprit here.

The big risk to planes is the CTC crackpots telling that jets cause droughts. How they got this idea is from Jay Reynold attempting to suppress power plant emissions dominant involvement in the cloud and weather making over the US.

So, it is Jay Reynolds who is the largest enabler of aircraft risk by suppressing how these power plant emissions upset the weather over the US leading to drought patterns and global warming temperature problems.

It is Jay Reynolds enabling of these false conclusions on CTC that really violate the safety of jet aircraft in the US.

Jay Reynolds is the biggest danger to aircraft there is, due to his cover ups for power plants and his former occupation. Jay Reynolds is the one in violation of the public trust and setting up Patriot Act violations toward the safety of airplane crews and passengers.

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Lets do a simple example of how stupid Jay Reynolds is as a power plant engineer. We are going to use a nice example that all beginner chemistry texts well show. But it is used extensively by DOE in the gas diffusion business.

IS stated:
"Alumina does react with HF in the air"

Jay Reynolds' poor knowledge asks:
"Ok, prove how it could do so, Jimbo.
You can't."

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It is increadibly obvoius that HF will react with alumina to even high school chemistry kids, but not to Jay Reynolds because he was a "grease monkey" at a power plant and now just a little "dirt farmer." He does not know simple sciences and never really did. One can tell that Jay Reynolds doesn't even really qualify for even grease monkey because most people know the ingredient in "Armour-All" for aluminum wheels is HF. HF is the brightner for corroded aluminum (aluminum oxide), and even high school kids know about it.

Jay Reynolds is involved in the process of pollution and poor engineering, he is trying to hide problems.

Easily found on the internet is this citation on the use of alumina to trap HF from gas diffusion releases:

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http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:QbWkgrkwpXwJ:www.nrc.gov/materials/fuel-cycle-fac/ml042190038.pdf+alumina+trap+HF+criticality&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

5.3.9 Technical Services Building Ventilated Room The purpose of the TSB Ventilated Room is for the emptying of chemical traps and to deal with faults associated with cylinder valves. Valves may be removed from cylinders and new valves fitted. The replaced valve is then tested for vacuum integrity. Calculations have been performed on storage arrays of product vent chemical (carbon) traps. The calculations also cover the storage of alumina traps, which are of similar dimensions but have a lower uptake of uranium. The alumina traps are not normally exposed to uranium (their purpose is to remove HF), but it is possible that an alumina trap could be connected to the plant by mistake in place of a carbon trap. The modeling of alumina traps as carbon traps covers this possibility. The chemical traps are essentially empty steel cylinders into which steel internal parts including perforated plates to carry the activated carbon are placed. The activated carbon in the trap

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Clearly proven beyond any doubt is that alumina makes an excellent HF trap. DOE likes these traps because they get nearly all the HF in air and are very high efficiency.

DOE has always been very concerned with HF releases, because very tiny amounts cause health problems for worker exposures. So, they chose alumina powder traps to grab all the HF releases into the air. Many of the places where there is UF-6 lost to air there is an alumina trap system.

Examples are areas like cylinder product transfer handling zones where lines filled with UF-6 are disconnected and dump UF-6 into the air, which converts to HF. There are systems called air "Gulpers" that use alumina powered to trap the HF from being released from the process area.

One of the problems is via careless actions in the later years of Union Carbide and Martin-Marietta, all these carefull preventions turned into a general level of abuse. Workers vented stages to atmosphere dumping long plumes of HF into the plant and communities air. They cranked up the processes so the bubbler systems did not trap HF at the correct levels. They burned UO2F2 in incinerators. They let huge tanks of UF-6 sit around leaking HF in the cylinder yards, and so on. They lost the care that cost the Manhattan Project 25% of its funds to keep the UF-6 and HF away from workers environment and communities environments.


The UF-6 systems of Oak Ridge are generally shut down these days, except for system deposit removal jobs. The only remaining HF operations in Oak Ridge these days is the one at the Y-12 plants "Green Salt" operation. This was recently upgraded to monitored double containment and total air washing of all air from the process. This process had killed workers in the past from skin exposures to HF. And the air releases were associated with affecting the health of the Scarboro Community of Oak Ridge and the many workers of the Y-12 plant exposed to the HF in the air. A leaking HF tank nearly killed the entire plants population not very long ago.

So, the DOE spent millions recently to upgrade this most dangerous of the Y-12 plants chemical operations.

HF is a cumulative poison and the safe level for it is about like the radiation ALARA process. There is NO safe level for HF exposures, because it is cumulative over a lifetime.

Add on the HF emissions of two DOE plants in Oak Ridge and two HF emitting TVA power plants in Oak Ridge and you get a lot of sick workers and people from HF's slow poisoning effects. And one huge liabilty for TVA and DOE.

And to GOP crooks like Jay Reynolds.


This is the really big health secret in Oak Ridge and the main reason for all the bad press on the area's health in major newspapers like the Nashville Tennessean's EXPOSE on the problems in recent years.

The Newspaper ran an massive series of reports based on literally nearly a thousand interviews with communities and workers in the area. One can still read about what the DOE's and the GOP's greed for the bomb did to this region in Tennessee:

http://www.tennessean.com/special/oakridge/part1/index.shtml

http://www.tennessean.com/special/oakridge/part2/frame.shtml

http://www.tennessean.com/special/oakridge/part3/frame.shtml


These are the stories about what the cover up of HF has done to a region and its people.

This is what the delusional state of false safety assurances from Jay Reynolds and others like him have done to people in Oak Ridge and elsewhere from energy pollutants.

Jay Reynolds conceals poisoning little kids by power plants and bomb plants.

[Yaak]

Jimmy Boy, where in the world do you get the idea from, that anybody besides you, foot_soldier, Halva and WMM is trying to hide anything? You are absolutely delusional. The rest of us are trying to shine light on the truth, not hide it. Unfortunately for you and your pals, this very same light also exposes liars, deceivers, charlatans and hoaxers.

It feels very good to be on the side of truth. I live at ease, because I don't have to continually watch over my shoulder, cover my tracks or lie to try to validate previous lies. Try it! You might like it, too.

When people like you are caught lying, deceiving and offering only half-truths, you discredit the rest of us that really do give a damn. If you truly do care, the best thing you can do is be quiet. Either that, or try being honest and accurate.

[Insurrectionchemistry]

Ah Yes,

Just keep in mind that Jay Reynolds has declaired this below publically in giving information on this Forum:

"Jimbo, don't forget, you are dealing with a power plant engineer, not some chemmie nincompoop swilling ouzo in a cafe. "

============

Jay Reynolds claims he is a power plant "Engineer", which means that his using the professional title of "Engineer" means he is "State Registry Licensed" and "Board Certified." Or he just broke the law. Means he can be held accountable for what he tells people in displaying and using the "Engineer" professional title in public places.


And we have all seen that Jay Reynolds knows all about coal fired power plants and how in the last decade in the US they have been slowly converting to emissions controls to reduce the acid emissions.


Then we have all watched the Cliff Caricom production on chemtrails, where he tells that clouds are produced only by interactions of pollution with water vapor in the skies. The pollution to which he refers is the emissions of coal and smelters, or acids and metals, which go to make hygroscopic compounds that are the seeds for water drop nucleation. The process of making clouds. This is probably the best part of the Caricom production, and right on the mark for that information.


We also know that when the industrial age rampped up decades ago, both the releases of Ozone Depleting Freon began and the rise of coal emissions ramped up simultaneously. Ozone proportionally killed the phytoplankton and the oceans cloud making systems, while hand in hand, the coal emissions were proportionally making chemicals in the skies that replaced this cloud seeding mechanism over land. In many areas the two effects came to cancel each others effects.


Now, we have Jay Reynolds fully admitting that he knows these processes and knows the coal emissions of acids that drive these cloud nucleating processes are being reduced by the power plant polluters, and with that effect comes loss of clouds, loss of rainfall, and increasing drought patterns across the land masses.


Jay Reynold, who claims to be a professional power plant "engineer," full well knows that the reduction of these acid emissions is directly tied to the drought issues that the CTC types attempt to blame on chemtrails activities and in doing so place aircraft at risk for attack. So, Jay Reynolds is supporting these misconceptions in attempts to cover up and conceal the massive environmental problems associated with energy production, as designed by power plant engineers like himself.

Jay Reynolds is directly helping to hide the main issues of power plants and drought pattern shifts over America, as these massive polluters change their emissions. It would appear that Jay Reynolds professional ethics are those of cover up and denial of pertinent issues. Jay Reynolds' Professional ethics are aimed at removing citizens being well informed and able to make accurate decisions by being well informed.


It appears that we have just place the blame finger on another GOP crook that likes to conceal pollution factors, and let risks to aircraft come first before the truth on his power plant engineering actually causing the bulk of the problems.


Jay Reynolds is an unethical GOP crook who violates the Patriots Act by helping to obscure the truth, and blatently attempts to exclude citizens from streakholder type involvement in these very serious and extreme environmental problems.

[jayreynolds]

Well, Jimbo, I am proud of you for answering my challenge.
Now we are getting somewhere.

Jimbo, at your website, you wrote:
"I also discovered the ideas for making "Chemtrails" or "Air Pharmacology" to treat the global warming and health effects. My ideas were to use Aluminum to seed clouds that are dispersed from jet plane fuel burning. The ideas also included the dispersion of cheep titanium reduce the effects of fluoride-metal complex metals on animal health. The titanium and fluoride complex did not from the bonding angles that activated the G-protein bonding sites."

Now, Jimbo, I'm wondering about several things.
1. Why did you say you would use "aluminum" back then, but now you say you use "activated alumina". Does this reflect a new idea, or are your claims just evolving over time?

2.How can I get some cheep titanium?

3.Is your claim above that alumina or aluminum is in jet fuel?

4.Exactly what concentration of alumina(or aluminum) is required in the jet fuel for effective global HF remediation?

No tricks here, old buddy, just some simple questions.
Got any answers?

[Insurrectionchemistry]

Jay Reynolds is suspected of Professional Title Fraud. These are illegal matters like pretending to be a lawyer or a doctor and giving public advice to people.

To clear up this situation he needs to supply his Professional License Number and state of registry.


Because his claims of being an Engineer have become highly suspect, by everyone watching how he does not even know simple science.


Jay Reynolds appears to everyone to be a professional liar and fraud.

[jayreynolds]

Jay Reynolds is suspected of Professional Title Fraud. These are illegal matters like pretending to be a lawyer or a doctor and giving public advice to people.

To clear up this situation he needs to supply his Professional License Number and state of registry.


Because his claims of being an Engineer have become highly suspect, by everyone watching how he does not even know simple science.


Jay Reynolds appears to everyone to be a professional liar and fraud.
Jimbo, I never said I was a P.E.
What about the questions, Jimbo?
You made the claims.
But can you back them up?

[jayreynolds]

I see Jim Phelps is now claiming that jet fuel contains aluminum.

OK, where is the certified lab analysis showing this to be true, Jimbo?

I've been waiting many many years to see some chemmie come up with one, but never a one has ever done so.

Surely this isn't too much to ask.

Like we say down in Dallas,
PUT UP OR SHUT UP

Hey, Jimbo, I asked you the above last year, in November 2004.
What's the matter, can't you deliver the goods?

[Insurrectionchemistry]

Jay Reynolds now admits to professional title fraud.

IN all states of the US, the use of the title "Engineer" requires a license or PE state registry license. All Engineers have to be state registered, just that same as the title of doctor or lawyer. No registry, not an engineer.

Jay Reynolds has blatantly broken the law of the US and has committed professional title fraud.

[jayreynolds]

Well, Jimbo, I am proud of you for answering my challenge.
Now we are getting somewhere.

Jimbo, at your website, you wrote:
"I also discovered the ideas for making "Chemtrails" or "Air Pharmacology" to treat the global warming and health effects. My ideas were to use Aluminum to seed clouds that are dispersed from jet plane fuel burning. The ideas also included the dispersion of cheep titanium reduce the effects of fluoride-metal complex metals on animal health. The titanium and fluoride complex did not from the bonding angles that activated the G-protein bonding sites."

Now, Jimbo, I'm wondering about several things.
1. Why did you say you would use "aluminum" back then, but now you say you use "activated alumina". Does this reflect a new idea, or are your claims just evolving over time?

2.How can I get some cheep titanium?

3.Is your claim above that alumina or aluminum is in jet fuel?

4.Exactly what concentration of alumina(or aluminum) is required in the jet fuel for effective global HF remediation?

No tricks here, old buddy, just some simple questions.
Got any answers?

Come on, now, Jimbo.
It won't work changing the subject to some petty accusation.
Just answer the questions.
You said you danced barefoot on a volcano.
Why is the heat getting to you now?

[Insurrectionchemistry]

Jay Reynolds = Fraudulent GOP crook


You're finished at CTC and everywhere else, and ole ET has been caught aiding and abetting you with your frauds.


Jay Reynolds and ET are the ones covering up the power plant emissions involvment in cloud and rainfall patterns and keeping the citizens of the US from being properly informed of environmental harm.


Jay Reynolds is not any different than a GOP Mike Brown of FEMA fame, who faked his professional resume. Mike Brown's greatest claim was horse show person and he was fired from that. Hundreds of people in New Orleans died from this GOP charletans claims of professional experience.

GOP crook Jay Reynolds makes the same type false claims and his GOP cover up scams helped to do much harm to America.

[Insurrectionchemistry]

I'll dare make a prediction on Jay Reynolds scamming the CTC types.

The CTC gang is not the most intellectual group in town, but they are not so slow as to be had by the likes of Jay Reynolds.

Even CTC can figure out that the Northeast US is way ahead of the rest of the US on coal emissions pollution abadement. Which means the Northeast has been steadly loosing the chemicals in the air that promote the seeding of clouds and with this loss come drought effects. Canada runs a lot of nukes on the Great Lakes, so they don't contribute much air acid emissions. This directly drives the dryness in New York and the Northeast.


Persons like Jay Reynolds, "power plant engineer," who clearly knows this is happening, have not been forthright in telling CTC folks or anyone else.


So, down here in the South, with TVAs high emissions of these acids, we have literally drowned with too much rain. We have been having to cut the grass twice as much. Rather simple association that explains why the equitorial zones of the oceans don't have the extreme loss of cloud shielding as the Souther oceans, where there is not a lot of acid emisssions to air problems. Tennessee has actually been cooler due to all the clouds.


Rather simple relationships that shows CTC's claims (Big Joe, etc.) on chemtrails causing these drought things have all been more the result of Jay Reynolds hiding the real factors. Jets actually help the situation by adding more cloud seeding effects.


Even in chemtrails sciences, the Generation 1 methods depended upon the existance of these acids in the air to form the cloud hygrosopic droplet nucleation effects. Generation 2 methods of chemtrails allowed for these coal emissions being reduced and changed mode in how the jet cloud making works.


Rather simple and very logical. All of it well planned and totally known 20 years ago.

NOW its Rather obvious the lies that Jay Reynolds has been putting forth to hide the real issues.

I would bet that once the CTC types get wind of what Reynolds has been up to, that there will literally be a hundred Patriot Act complaint letters telling of this Jay Reynolds setting up dangers to jet aircraft.

I dare predict the CTC types will not only be extremely mad, but extremely malicious as they discover the real menace of Jay Reynolds.


Very soon now the CTC types are going to come literally unglued, and its not going to be pretty.

[Insurrectionchemistry]

Another snap-shot:


Jimbo, I never said I was a P.E.
What about the questions, Jimbo?
You made the claims.
But can you back them up?

[jayreynolds]

Jimbo, at your website, you wrote:
"I also discovered the ideas for making "Chemtrails" or "Air Pharmacology" to treat the global warming and health effects. My ideas were to use Aluminum to seed clouds that are dispersed from jet plane fuel burning. The ideas also included the dispersion of cheep titanium reduce the effects of fluoride-metal complex metals on animal health. The titanium and fluoride complex did not from the bonding angles that activated the G-protein bonding sites."

Now, Jimbo, I'm wondering about several things.
1. Why did you say you would use "aluminum" back then, but now you say you use "activated alumina". Does this reflect a new idea, or are your claims just evolving over time?

2.How can I get some cheep titanium?

3.Is your claim above that alumina or aluminum is in jet fuel?

4.Exactly what concentration of alumina(or aluminum) is required in the jet fuel for effective global HF remediation?

Jimbo, you make the claim that you are a "whistleblower".
You've dodged the question above for 24 hours.
If you truly did, as you have claimed, invent the process above, why can't you, as a supposed "whistleblower", tell us a little more about the process?

I certainly don't want to cover up or keep anyone from benefitting from your knowledge.

So why not just give us some details?

Is there a reason why you don't want to get into this subject?

Are you frightened by what path continued discussion of your claims might take?

Is it possible that these questions might reveal some holes in your claims?

now I expect you will begin nattering on, trying to deflect attention away from your inability to discuss what you claim to be an expert in, so go ahead if you like, but be aware that if you really want to persuade people, you'll have to at least make an effort.

If you won't, people will begin to wonder why..............?

If so, just tell us why you can't answer the questions above.

[Insurrectionchemistry]

There will soon be Hell to Pay for the fake Engineer Jay Reynolds as CTC finds out his true colors.

[jayreynolds]

There will soon be Hell to Pay for the fake Engineer Jay Reynolds as CTC finds out his true colors.
Yeah, sure, but in the meantime what about my questions above?

Why don't you want to discuss your claims, Jimbo.

It's not like you have anything to hide, is it?

[Insurrectionchemistry]

The GOP fraud known as Jay Reynolds, who could not figure out HF reacts with Al, is finshed here and everywhere else.

[jayreynolds]

There will soon be Hell to Pay for the fake Engineer Jay Reynolds as CTC finds out his true colors.

I find it funny as Hell that You think what chemmies at chemtrailcentral.com think matters to me at all, Jimbo.

The fact is, they evidently agreed with me about the subject of this thread and deleted the post I quoted in post #1. Or else they were forced to do so after I made an issue out of it. Either way, they did the right thing in that case, don't you think?

Or did you sort of like the idea Billder proposed?

[jayreynolds]

Oh, BTW, it looks like I'm definitely not finished, doesn't it, Jimbo?

Still here!

[Insurrectionchemistry]

I think everyone knows your not playing with a full deck and like marked cards.

They also say you're not all there, or here.

Bush Monolog Reynolds does not debate.


CTC's rumblings have begun.

[jayreynolds]

Bush Monolog Reynolds does not debate.
]Ok, Jimbo, let's debate this previous claim:

Jimbo, at your website, you wrote:
"I also discovered the ideas for making "Chemtrails" or "Air Pharmacology" to treat the global warming and health effects. My ideas were to use Aluminum to seed clouds that are dispersed from jet plane fuel burning. The ideas also included the dispersion of cheep titanium reduce the effects of fluoride-metal complex metals on animal health. The titanium and fluoride complex did not from the bonding angles that activated the G-protein bonding sites."

Now, Jimbo, I'm wondering about several things.
1. Why did you say you would use "aluminum" back then, but now you say you use "activated alumina". Does this reflect a new idea, or are your claims just evolving over time?

2.How can I get some cheep titanium?

3.Is your claim above that alumina or aluminum is in jet fuel?

4.Exactly what concentration of alumina(or aluminum) is required in the jet fuel for effective global HF remediation?

Jimbo, you make the claim that you are a "whistleblower".
You've dodged the question above for 24 hours.
If you truly did, as you have claimed, invent the process above, why can't you, as a supposed "whistleblower", tell us a little more about the process?

I certainly don't want to cover up or keep anyone from benefitting from your knowledge.

So why not just give us some details?

Is there a reason why you don't want to get into this subject?

Are you frightened by what path continued discussion of your claims might take?

Is it possible that these questions might reveal some holes in your claims?

now I expect you will begin nattering on, trying to deflect attention away from your inability to discuss what you claim to be an expert in, so go ahead if you like, but be aware that if you really want to persuade people, you'll have to at least make an effort.

If you won't, people will begin to wonder why..............?

If so, just tell us why you can't answer the questions above.

[Insurrectionchemistry]

Everyone knows Jay Reynolds won't debate. GOP Propaganda monologs he does.

It is better when the truth, like how coal plants emit acids and metals that form hygroscopic particles in the air that make clouds and induce rainfall, is made available for the public to take notice.

Then for them (John Q Public) to take note that ole "GOP Power Plant Engineer" Jay Reynolds is hiding those little facts of science and how the Clean Air Act is making lots of impact on climate and rainfall over the US.


Then for them (John Q Public) all to begin to notice that Generation 1 Chemtrails method science is one in the same basic science that coal plants emissions have been doing across the US for literally decades. Lots of just good ole common sense logic, spelling out the simple truth to folks.


Then we can begin to get to the root of the problems on "CTC and Jay Reynolds" causing the increased risk to aircraft safety. Then we can get CTC writing those Patriot Act complaints fingering Jay Reynolds and the GOP's climate cover ups.


So, some strategically placed truths on Jay Reynolds noisy bird's tail means he can't fly. The "Stand up Kinda Guy" Jay Reynolds attempts to portray looks all the more like a not so lofty snake.


This is how the strategy debate game is played when one is dealing with a basic GOP crook.

And just think, I and others get to use you to make our points. And even right here on the GOP "Bunk-Shooter's" thread that you began.

Your reactive mode failings are becoming "Air Apparent."

"John Q Public" has No Faith (No Trust-No Confidence) in you or your GOP. Just a matter of too many lies. >>>>> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9622843/


Lets all cheer: "Bully for the Jay Reynolds GOP team's lies."
Then go read the real truth again:
http://www.thinkprogress.org/leak-scandal


Hello Houston, Jay Reynolds has a truth problem.
Abort, Abort.
Atmospheric burn up may jeapordize his mission.
Radio silence.


======

http://www.ametsoc.org/POLICY/aciddepo_2003.html

Acid Deposition

(Adopted by AMS Council on 11 September 2003)
Bull. Amer. Met. Soc., 85, 299—301

Acid deposition has been studied extensively in the United States and Europe. After completion of many years of study in the 1980s and 1990s, Congress passed legislation to mitigate the undesirable effects of this process. Although it has not received recent attention, acid deposition is still a major concern because it harms many ecosystems worldwide. With the increasing industrialization in other countries, it is anticipated that this problem will accompany increases in atmospheric aerosols. The following statement summarizes the present state of knowledge and uncertainty about atmospheric aspects of acid deposition and provides recommendations.

===

Strong acids have an affinity for water, and therefore hygroscopically grow or combine with water vapor to form "haze" aerosols containing sulfuric acid, nitric acid, and varying degrees of neutralizing ammonia (NH3), especially when atmospheric relative humidities are above 60%–70%. Typically, ammonia and nitric acid are present as both gases and aerosols in the atmosphere, while sulfate partitions predominantly into condensed aerosols. These sulfate-, nitrate-, and ammonium-containing aerosol particles constitute a significant fraction of cloud condensation nuclei (CCN), and thus acid-containing aerosols are readily incorporated into clouds. Precipitation forming within clouds therefore contains dissolved CCN together with other soluble gases such as HNO3 and NH3.

[Insurrectionchemistry]

http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=reutersEdge&storyID=2005-1
0-07T123756Z_01_EIC745496_RTRIDST_0_PICKS-ENERGY-COAL-CLIMATE-DC.XML&archived=
False


Clean coal isn't climate-friendly yet
Oct 7, 2005

By Timothy Gardner
NEW YORK (Reuters) - The world's first substantially cleaner coal plants are
being planned in the United States, but they may do little to cut global
warming risks until the U.S. forms climate regulations, experts said.

U.S. utilities are planning a fleet of new coal plants amid bountiful
domestic supplies of the fuel and all-time high natural gas prices.

But only a fraction of those will use the Holy Grail of clean coal technology
-- integrated gasification combined cycle (IGCC) -- because of the high
initial cost.

IGCC gasifies coal before it's burned, cutting large quantities of pollutants
harmful to human health, such as particulates, small components and mercury,
from going up the smokestack.

"This is the way we need to go to preserve the coal option," said John
Stowell, environmental strategist at utility Cinergy Corp. (CIN.N: Quote, Profile,
Research).

IGCC can be paired with pipes that capture the leading greenhouse gas carbon
dioxide. Most scientists believe greenhouse gases lead to global warming that
could have catastrophic consequences such as rising seas and stronger
hurricanes.

Capturing can be added much more cheaply to IGCC than conventional coal
plants.

American Electric Power Co Inc. (AEP.N: Quote, Profile, Research) and Cinergy
plan to build IGCC plants in the Midwest in the next decade. Both companies
are also involved with the U.S. Energy Department's FutureGen coal
demonstration project which aims to capture carbon.

But they don't plan yet to add the capturing equipment on the IGCC plants
they aim to build.

That concerns some environmentalists, especially as the technology could
increase coal use and open up vast areas of high sulfur coal in the Midwest to
mining that have been off limits since the 1990 Clean Air Act.

"If IGCC is not built with carbon capture and storage, it may as well be the
old dirty stuff," said Dave Hamilton, the Sierra Club's global warming program
director. "It will be a cumulative increase in our carbon emissions."

President George W. Bush dropped out of the Kyoto Protocol on global warming
soon into his first term. That means U.S. companies aren't held to limit
greenhouse gases as they are in most other industrialized countries.

"Until there is such a requirement we're not going to put that technology in
place at this point," said Melissa McHenry, a spokeswoman for

AEP.

COST

IGCC start-up costs can run 20 percent over conventional plants, but new
incentives could ease the pain.

The new federal Energy Act contains up to $800 million in investment tax
credits for IGCC. Those could help utilities build six to 10 of the first
commercial IGCC plants by 2010 or soon after, said Stuart Dalton, a power expert at
the Electric Power Research Institute, an industry funded group.

Dalton said those incentives are in addition to billions in other federal
coal, gasification and carbon sequestration incentives as well as incentives in
Illinois and other states.

"It makes it (IGCC) something people are considering now, even more than six
months ago," he said.

In addition to the start-up costs, electricity prices could rise if power
plant operators adopt carbon capturing technology, according to a recent U.N.
report.

But carbon capturing on IGCC plants adds only 25 percent to the cost of the
electricity, compared to a 60 percent cost boost for electricity from
conventional coal plants that add capturing, said Ed Lowe, the gasification manager at
GE Energy (GE.N: Quote, Profile, Research). GE Energy develops IGCC units for
utilities with privately held Bechtel.

In addition, Lowe said, IGGC's can remove 90 percent of the mercury in coal
at one-tenth of the cost as conventional clean coal plants. And GE also aims to
halve the startup cost, he said.

MIDWEST COAL MINING BOOM?

IGGC plants are so clean that utilities hope soon they will lead to a boost
in Midwestern coal mining.

Connie Holmes, a spokeswoman with the National Mining Association, said IGCC
and other clean coal technologies could open high-sulfur coal fields in
Illinois, Ohio, Western Kentucky and Pennsylvania that miners have avoided since the
1990 Clean Air Act made burning fuel from the region more expensive.

U.S. electricity demand should rise 50 percent from 2003 to 2025, according
to the DOE. Much of that generation could be coal-based as natural gas supplies
thin and as U.S. communities protest the building of liquefied natural gas
(LNG) ports.

More than 90 percent of power plants built since the late 1990s run on gas.
As a result, gas prices, which averaged about $2 per mmBtu throughout the
1990s, are on track to average a record $7 per mmBtu this year, their third
consecutive record year.

In the mid-1990s, not one utility had plans to build a coal plant. Now more
than 120 U.S. coal plants have been proposed, more in the last 12 months than
the last 12 years, according to the National Energy Technology Laboratory.

WELL PLACED

Companies are eyeing looming carbon caps, such as those envisioned by the
Regional Greenhouse Gas Initiative, a group of nine northeastern states. RGGI
seeks to break with Bush by forming regional carbon dioxide markets.

While utilities don't yet capture carbon, those with IGCC could be well
placed to do so in the future. AEP agrees that over time, there could be cost
savings.

"We feel that for the operating life of the plant, 40 or 50 or 60 years, it
(IGCC) is the best and most cost effective route to take for customers and
shareholders," said AEP spokesman Pat Hemlepp.

Some environmentalists are cautiously optimistic about IGCC, but say
renewables such as wind power and solar could replace some of the need for coal. "We
believe it should be considered the requirement for a modern power plant, but
until (carbon constraint) happens, this is still just the shiny object that
distracts us from the nearly 500 dirty coal plants that are polluting the air,"
said Greenpeace energy policy specialist John Coequyt.

[jayreynolds]

Bush Monolog Reynolds does not debate.
Jimbo, I'm not finished with you yet. If you want to debate, I say let's start now.
Unless you can't hack it, boy!
Posting more copy/paste drivel won't cover up your failure to support your claims, Jimbo.
anybody can see that it is a simplistic moron gambit to evade facing responsibility for what you have stated is fact.

It's time to be a man, Jimbo, not to run away like some scared little sheep...!


Ok, Jimbo, let's debate this previous claim:

Jimbo, at your website, you wrote:
"I also discovered the ideas for making "Chemtrails" or "Air Pharmacology" to treat the global warming and health effects. My ideas were to use Aluminum to seed clouds that are dispersed from jet plane fuel burning. The ideas also included the dispersion of cheep titanium reduce the effects of fluoride-metal complex metals on animal health. The titanium and fluoride complex did not from the bonding angles that activated the G-protein bonding sites."

Now, Jimbo, I'm wondering about several things.
1. Why did you say you would use "aluminum" back then, but now you say you use "activated alumina". Does this reflect a new idea, or are your claims just evolving over time?

2.How can I get some cheep titanium?

3.Is your claim above that alumina or aluminum is in jet fuel?

4.Exactly what concentration of alumina(or aluminum) is required in the jet fuel for effective global HF remediation?

Jimbo, you make the claim that you are a "whistleblower".
You've dodged the question above for 24 hours.
If you truly did, as you have claimed, invent the process above, why can't you, as a supposed "whistleblower", tell us a little more about the process?

I certainly don't want to cover up or keep anyone from benefitting from your knowledge.

So why not just give us some details?

Is there a reason why you don't want to get into this subject?

Are you frightened by what path continued discussion of your claims might take?

Is it possible that these questions might reveal some holes in your claims?

now I expect you will begin nattering on, trying to deflect attention away from your inability to discuss what you claim to be an expert in, so go ahead if you like, but be aware that if you really want to persuade people, you'll have to at least make an effort.

If you won't, people will begin to wonder why..............?

If so, just tell us why you can't answer the questions above.

[Insurrectionchemistry]

Impossible to debate, since you did not even know simple HF chemical reactions.

Your knowledge level and political orientation does not debate, they only tend to tell lies.


I am just around to expose your GOP agenda lies to all the rest of the world.

All those CTC folks got to write those Patriot Act letters that condem Jay Reynolds.


Guess the CTC folks need to write the state of Arkansas and tell them about your professional title fraud issues too.

[jayreynolds]

It's become clear, Jimbo, that you have been lying about the cards in your deck.
When asked to show the cards, when your bluff is called, you balk.

[Insurrectionchemistry]

Well, we are all seeing that Jay Reynolds does not know simple chemistry science.

Jay Reynolds can't tell the mechanism for how alumina traps HF, and it is a well established fact by NRC reports.


How that mechnism works is the key to aluminum's use in chemtrails mechanisms. Having to admit that mechanism exists would pretty much have Jay Reynolds shooting himself in the foot.


So, he is rather well trapped.

He can play dumb and look stupid and the false Engineer claims bear down, or he can toss out the mechanism and get sudden death for yielding forth the principle mechanism for Al based chemtrails.


He lost another discussion.

[jayreynolds]

Jimbo, to an extent, activated alumina certainly can adsorb hydrogen flouride .
I never disagreed that it could.

Now, on to the questions:

Jimbo, at your website, you wrote:
"I also discovered the ideas for making "Chemtrails" or "Air Pharmacology" to treat the global warming and health effects. My ideas were to use Aluminum to seed clouds that are dispersed from jet plane fuel burning. The ideas also included the dispersion of cheep titanium reduce the effects of fluoride-metal complex metals on animal health. The titanium and fluoride complex did not from the bonding angles that activated the G-protein bonding sites."

Now, Jimbo, I'm wondering about several things.
1. Why did you say you would use "aluminum" back then, but now you say you use "activated alumina". Does this reflect a new idea, or are your claims just evolving over time?

2.How can I get some cheep titanium?

3.Is your claim above that alumina or aluminum is in jet fuel?

4.Exactly what concentration of alumina(or aluminum) is required in the jet fuel for effective global HF remediation?

Jimbo, you make the claim that you are a "whistleblower".
You've dodged the question above for 24 hours.
If you truly did, as you have claimed, invent the process above, why can't you, as a supposed "whistleblower", tell us a little more about the process?

I certainly don't want to cover up or keep anyone from benefitting from your knowledge.

So why not just give us some details?

Is there a reason why you don't want to get into this subject?

Are you frightened by what path continued discussion of your claims might take?

Is it possible that these questions might reveal some holes in your claims?

now I expect you will begin nattering on, trying to deflect attention away from your inability to discuss what you claim to be an expert in, so go ahead if you like, but be aware that if you really want to persuade people, you'll have to at least make an effort.

If you won't, people will begin to wonder why..............?

If so, just tell us why you can't answer the questions above.

[Insurrectionchemistry]

Jay Reynolds admits:

"Jimbo, to an extent, activated alumina certainly can adsorb hydrogen flouride .
I never disagreed that it could."

==========

Oh, is this why all those demands to prove this mechanism which you already knew. And this support for Ziggy's Dead Material claim.

Sounds like you disagreed, since you never admitted it were possible until faced with an offical Govt Report which you can't deny.


Me thinks Jay Reynolds is caught lying again.


Since the mechanism now exists, explain it fully.

[jayreynolds]

like I said, Jimbo, I never disagreed or said that activated alumina couldn't adsorb hydrogen flouride. Even grade school children in Arkansas know this.

Now, on to the questions:

Jimbo, at your website, you wrote:
"I also discovered the ideas for making "Chemtrails" or "Air Pharmacology" to treat the global warming and health effects. My ideas were to use Aluminum to seed clouds that are dispersed from jet plane fuel burning. The ideas also included the dispersion of cheep titanium reduce the effects of fluoride-metal complex metals on animal health. The titanium and fluoride complex did not from the bonding angles that activated the G-protein bonding sites."

Now, Jimbo, I'm wondering about several things.
1. Why did you say you would use "aluminum" back then, but now you say you use "activated alumina". Does this reflect a new idea, or are your claims just evolving over time?

2.How can I get some cheep titanium?

3.Is your claim above that alumina or aluminum is in jet fuel?

4.Exactly what concentration of alumina(or aluminum) is required in the jet fuel for effective global HF remediation?

Jimbo, you make the claim that you are a "whistleblower".
You've dodged the question above for 24 hours.
If you truly did, as you have claimed, invent the process above, why can't you, as a supposed "whistleblower", tell us a little more about the process?

I certainly don't want to cover up or keep anyone from benefitting from your knowledge.

So why not just give us some details?

Is there a reason why you don't want to get into this subject?

Are you frightened by what path continued discussion of your claims might take?

Is it possible that these questions might reveal some holes in your claims?

now I expect you will begin nattering on, trying to deflect attention away from your inability to discuss what you claim to be an expert in, so go ahead if you like, but be aware that if you really want to persuade people, you'll have to at least make an effort.

If you won't, people will begin to wonder why..............?

If so, just tell us why you can't answer the questions above.

[Insurrectionchemistry]

Jay Reynolds was caught red handed agreeing with Ziggy's dead material alumina claims.

Now, The Jay Reynolds fake Engineer that is supposed to know all about aluminum uses in water plants and refineries, doesn't know the mechanism for alumina trapping HF.

Yet, now he admits it happens and has known so all along, but lied about knowing to support his fake agendas.

Ziggy likes precise, so the whole principle for the alumina trapping of HF, or all becomes obviously focused on more of Jay Reynolds chemistry lies. And Jay Reynolds looses the discussion again.

[jayreynolds]

Oh great destroyer of worlds, impart upon us unworthy souls a pittance of your knowledge and answer our paltry questions:

like I said, Jimbo, I never disagreed or said that activated alumina couldn't adsorb hydrogen flouride. Even grade school children in Arkansas know this.

Now, on to the questions:

Jimbo, at your website, you wrote:
"I also discovered the ideas for making "Chemtrails" or "Air Pharmacology" to treat the global warming and health effects. My ideas were to use Aluminum to seed clouds that are dispersed from jet plane fuel burning. The ideas also included the dispersion of cheep titanium reduce the effects of fluoride-metal complex metals on animal health. The titanium and fluoride complex did not from the bonding angles that activated the G-protein bonding sites."

Now, Jimbo, I'm wondering about several things.
1. Why did you say you would use "aluminum" back then, but now you say you use "activated alumina". Does this reflect a new idea, or are your claims just evolving over time?

2.How can I get some cheep titanium?

3.Is your claim above that alumina or aluminum is in jet fuel?

4.Exactly what concentration of alumina(or aluminum) is required in the jet fuel for effective global HF remediation?

Jimbo, you make the claim that you are a "whistleblower".
You've dodged the question above for 24 hours.
If you truly did, as you have claimed, invent the process above, why can't you, as a supposed "whistleblower", tell us a little more about the process?

I certainly don't want to cover up or keep anyone from benefitting from your knowledge.

So why not just give us some details?

Is there a reason why you don't want to get into this subject?

Are you frightened by what path continued discussion of your claims might take?

Is it possible that these questions might reveal some holes in your claims?

now I expect you will begin nattering on, trying to deflect attention away from your inability to discuss what you claim to be an expert in, so go ahead if you like, but be aware that if you really want to persuade people, you'll have to at least make an effort.

If you won't, people will begin to wonder why..............?

If so, just tell us why you can't answer the questions above.

[Insurrectionchemistry]

Going forward depends on corrupt Jay Reynolds telling more than partial truths.

He has to engage in Honest Discussion, not in games of deceit.

Jay Reynolds knows well the polar nature of alumiunum compounds used in water plants to clean polar water of pollutants.

Jay Reynolds needs to complete the admissions on the mechanism of alumina trapping HF, else be shown to be engaged in the process of more lies.


Every time he dodges this question he is shown to be coving up the whole story of the mechanism for alumina. And such dishonesty means he lost again.


Get down to the simplest concepts the common person can grasp.

[DvdGStwrt]

The idea of chemmies considering aiming large mirrors into the sky is bothersome to me.

A person following the suggested course of action in the posting below could easily find themselves potentially liable under the Patriot Act and other statutes for "interfering with flight crews". The penalty is 20 years to life in prison.
TITLE 49 > SUBTITLE VII > PART A > subpart iv > CHAPTER 465
http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode49/usc_sec_49_00046504----000-.html
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Even being peripherally involved in causing threats to be made against aircraft is a violation, and worth five years in prison:
TITLE 49 > SUBTITLE VII > PART A > subpart iv > CHAPTER 465 > § 46507
http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode49/usc_sec_49_00046507----000-.html
---------------------------------------------------------

What is interesting is that the Patriot Act covers this "criminal act". It is interesting to me how the Patriot Act appears to cover so many other actions of individuals terrorist related and otherwise.

[jayreynolds]

What is interesting is that the Patriot Act covers this "criminal act". It is interesting to me how the Patriot Act appears to cover so many other actions of individuals terrorist related and otherwise.

Actually, there were always laws petaining to this sort of terrorism.
Nothing new.

[halva]

It is up to Americans to confront Reynolds over vacuous assertions like this. But beware of getting into 'reactive mode' with him.

In Europe we just proceed with political integration and freeing ourselves from the chains that are being wrapped ever more tightly around Americans.

[halva]

Oh great destroyer of worlds, impart upon us unworthy souls a pittance of your knowledge and answer our paltry questions:

Just see to what levels of namby-pamby chickenshit Raynolds is not ashamed to descend.

Nobody deserves to be surrounded by, or exposed to, this intellectual chaos.

[jayreynolds]

Just see to what levels of namby-pamby chickenshit Raynolds is not ashamed to descend.

Nobody deserves to be surrounded by, or exposed to, this intellectual chaos.
So, aking questions drectly related to Jimbo's claims in "namby-pamby chickenshit", eh?

Well, here's a little hint for you bub.

When any scientist sees Jimbo's record, the association sticks to all his cronies, and that means you, wayne.

And when any scientist sees your reposterous claim that 107 tons of anything would make a nano-difference in earth's atmosphere, the article all your dumbass 'friends' have congratulated you on(hee-hee-hee) will be seen as the farce that is Wayne Hall. I actually hope it gets sread far & wide, Wayne, because it is as good of a 'poison pill' as clodbusters or Jim Phelps ever were.

Thanks for making debunking your people soooo easy, Wayne. And you can't say I didn't warn you ahead of time, and multiple times at that!

[halva]

So, aking questions drectly related to Jimbo's claims in "namby-pamby chickenshit", eh?

Well, here's a little hint for you bub.

When any scientist sees Jimbo's record, the association sticks to all his cronies, and that means you, wayne.

And when any scientist sees your reposterous claim that 107 tons of anything would make a nano-difference in earth's atmosphere, the article all your dumbass 'friends' have congratulated you on(hee-hee-hee) will be seen as the farce that is Wayne Hall. I actually hope it gets sread far & wide, Wayne, because it is as good of a 'poison pill' as clodbusters or Jim Phelps ever were.

Thanks for making debunking your people soooo easy, Wayne. And you can't say I didn't warn you ahead of time, and multiple times at that!

Jim Phelps will be and is forgiven much on the basis of his honesty about some matters where dishonesty is the norm among the 'respectable' whose authority you cite when it suits you and ignore when it doesn't.

As for the quote from the IPCC, you can use the arguments you use to bamboozle those who share your 'climate change scepticism', like Toni Thayer. Not that you have succeeded in bamboozling HER.

As far as my milieu is concerned, most people in it still do not KNOW that the IPCC has been saying things like that. And when they do find out, they are not going to move in YOUR direction. Do you really think they are??

No you don't. You are just blowing smoke as usual. Improvising until such time as the consequences of your ill-thought-out activity catch up with you. Your dishonesty has driven rifts between yourself and 'your people'. And leaving out of account your general cynical criminality, your 'climate change scepticism' disqualifies you from making any new friends.

[jayreynolds]

Notice to all "chemtrail" hoax promoters-
Be aware that your hoax is now being carried by the website of the Baathist Party.
Consider the implications and possible results of this development.

http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m17305&date=30-oct-2005_15:22_ECT

http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m11760&l=i&size=1&hd=0

http://www.uruknet.info/.?p=7486&hd=0&size=1&l=x

[halva]

I see that we are moving into a period of trench warfare, with little or no new intellectual content.

So who cares. What goes on here is a diversion anyway.