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Edmund
06-24-2005, 07:44 PM
Dear Folks

I was crawling the web looking for information on carcinogenic materials that are in aviation fuel. Having a lot of trouble finding an easy read list with what substance does etc. I am most interested in the fire retardants used in aviation fuel and what toxic additives they have and how those additives are carcenogenic. :confused:

I had a list once but for the life of me I just can not find it now. :?

I know it is all quite specific, sorry.

If you can help or suggest alternative site etc that would be most appreciated.

Cheers :D

Edmund

foot_soldier
06-24-2005, 10:52 PM
Here are a few resources that might be helpful with your search process:

Civil Aviation Authority
Air Pollution
http://www.caa.co.uk/default.aspx?categoryid=68&pagetype=90&pageid=52

December 1996
ARCO on Airport Pollution
http://www.eltoroairport.org/issues/acro_poltn.html

Aviation Fuels
10 - Aviation Gasoline Composition
http://www.chevron.com/products/prodserv/fuels/bulletin/aviationfuel/10_ag_composition.shtm

Fuel Anti-oxidants for Aviation Gasoline
http://www.octel-starreon.com/Products_RFA_Antioxidants.htm

jayreynolds
06-25-2005, 08:55 PM
The use of aviation gasoline is quite small compared to jet turbine fuel. Jet turbine fuel is basically kerosene.

I find it amusing you would have a belief that aviation fuel contains a fire retardant.
Aircraft engines produce power by burning fuel.

Edmund
06-27-2005, 01:35 AM
Dear Foot Soldier

Cheers for all those links. I have tried them all but they could not provide me with the information that I needed. :?

Dear jayreynolds

Your statement could well be true. As I understood it aviation fuel had chemicle/s in it to reduce its flamability on the event of a crash. However, your statement makes perfect sense and could well be right. Do you know for a fact that they don't have any retardants in them or are you just using logic (simple question not trying to be rude)? :shock:

Edmund

foot_soldier
06-27-2005, 09:01 PM
I can't imagine that aviation fuel has any carcinogenic ingredients. :rolleyes:

Why it's probably pure enough to drink.

As for fire retardant properties, here is a reference to a study that seeks to reduce aviation fuel flammability:

Federal Laboratory Consortium - Mid-West Region
NASA-GRC - Studies Aim to Reduce Airplane Fuel Flammability
http://www.federallabs.org/servlet/newContentObjServlet?LinkCoArID=2002-10-28-08-26-55-256-eportney&CoArRegion=Midwest&parentID=2002-10-28-08-03-26-370-eportney

NASA is developing technology to help prevent airliner fuel tank fires with the help of four contracts awarded by NASA's Glenn Research Center, Cleveland.

The four contracts, totaling approximately $400,000, have been awarded to Creare Engineering, Inc., Hanover, N.H.; Essex Cryogenics Inc., St. Louis; Honeywell Environmental Controls Systems, Torrance, Calif.; and Valcor Engineering, Springfield, N.J.

"The companies will study how to reduce flammability in fuel tanks by replacing oxygen with a gas that won't support combustion," said Clarence Chang, manager of the Fire Prevention Element of Glenn's Accident Mitigation Project..... (continued)

One reference leads to another. Good luck with your process.

jayreynolds
06-28-2005, 06:07 AM
Dear Foot Soldier

Cheers for all those links. I have tried them all but they could not provide me with the information that I needed. :?

Dear jayreynolds

Your statement could well be true. As I understood it aviation fuel had chemicle/s in it to reduce its flamability on the event of a crash. However, your statement makes perfect sense and could well be right. Do you know for a fact that they don't have any retardants in them or are you just using logic (simple question not trying to be rude)? :shock:

Edmund
Dear Edmund,
Practically all fuels have carcinogenic properties, including standard gasoline, candle wax, even firewood. Generally, reducing exposure levels to these fuels and the byproducts of their combustion would be key to reducing cancer risk.

Yes, simple logic tells me that reducing flammability would render a substance worthless as a fuel designed to be burned. Whoever said that didn't apply simple logic, did they?

What is the source of your information, "As I understood it aviation fuel had chemicle/s in it to reduce its flamability on the event of a crash."? 'footsoldier' seems unable to confirm any flame retardant, other than reducing the contact of fuel the tank with oxygen.

Edmund
06-28-2005, 10:10 PM
Dear Foot Soldier

Again thank you for the links.

Dear Jay Reynolds

That is just it, I am not sure of my source re fire retardants in aviation fuel. I am sure I read something years ago but I just can not find the document. That is why I decided to leave a post on this site. However, I may have read it wrong or confused what I thought I read with some thing else. I knew that fuel by itself was carcinogenic, even charcoal from wood etc. I was just so sure that I had read something else (years ago) on fire retardants.

Oh well, we live and learn.

Edmund