David Ben-Ariel
01-14-2005, 08:22 PM
My ancestry is "German" in part, on my father's side (Hoover, Ort, Creeger), although its predominately English, with Irish and Scottish for good measure - all Israelite! - DBA
"Brit-Am Now"-504/ www.britam.org
Contents:
1. Question on Germany
1. Question on Germany
>In your system I see that the Germans are not retracted to a tribe.
>How do you see that?
>
>Alan
As I understand the sources:
Before ca. 600-500 BCE Germany was relatively underpopulated
though it did contain "native" elements.
In the period 500 BCE to 400 CE a constant stream of Scythian-Germanic
peoples entered Germany on the whole avoiding intermixture with the "natives".
These new "Scythian-Germanic" elements determined much of the language and culture of the area.
They later largely moved out into areas further westward over the period
200-500 CE leaving enclaves behind them as well as a vacuum that allowed the "natives" to partially re-assert themselves.
In the meantime new peoples came in from the east and south in waves
and occupied much of the area of present-day Germany.
These were mainly Slavic speakers though they included Illyrians and others.
Archaeology shows waves of these immigrants in the 500s and 600s CE but a large-scale peaceful percolation from the East continued into the 1200s.
The "newcomers" were conquered by "Germans" from the west under Charlemagne and his successors who imposed Germanic language and culture and planted colonies of native "Germans" amongst them. The Catholic Church helped the process of "Germanization" which was still continuing in Bavaria and elsewhere into the Counter-Reformation of
the 1600s and 1700s.
In the 1700s and 1800s there was a large-scale migration of Germans to
North America. Based on social, social-psychological, and physical records the migrants were "different" from those who stayed behind. They were less anti-Semitic and often had maintained values and customs of their own that separated them from the rest.
It was not unusual for members of an entire village to migrate while all
the members of a neighboring village remained behind. Until recently most of our ancestors married only people from their own clan or village.
We hold that the Germans who moved to North America were mainly of
Israelite origin whereas those that remained behind had a different origin.
Similar patterns existed in other areas of Europe.
"Brit-Am Now"-504/ www.britam.org
Contents:
1. Question on Germany
1. Question on Germany
>In your system I see that the Germans are not retracted to a tribe.
>How do you see that?
>
>Alan
As I understand the sources:
Before ca. 600-500 BCE Germany was relatively underpopulated
though it did contain "native" elements.
In the period 500 BCE to 400 CE a constant stream of Scythian-Germanic
peoples entered Germany on the whole avoiding intermixture with the "natives".
These new "Scythian-Germanic" elements determined much of the language and culture of the area.
They later largely moved out into areas further westward over the period
200-500 CE leaving enclaves behind them as well as a vacuum that allowed the "natives" to partially re-assert themselves.
In the meantime new peoples came in from the east and south in waves
and occupied much of the area of present-day Germany.
These were mainly Slavic speakers though they included Illyrians and others.
Archaeology shows waves of these immigrants in the 500s and 600s CE but a large-scale peaceful percolation from the East continued into the 1200s.
The "newcomers" were conquered by "Germans" from the west under Charlemagne and his successors who imposed Germanic language and culture and planted colonies of native "Germans" amongst them. The Catholic Church helped the process of "Germanization" which was still continuing in Bavaria and elsewhere into the Counter-Reformation of
the 1600s and 1700s.
In the 1700s and 1800s there was a large-scale migration of Germans to
North America. Based on social, social-psychological, and physical records the migrants were "different" from those who stayed behind. They were less anti-Semitic and often had maintained values and customs of their own that separated them from the rest.
It was not unusual for members of an entire village to migrate while all
the members of a neighboring village remained behind. Until recently most of our ancestors married only people from their own clan or village.
We hold that the Germans who moved to North America were mainly of
Israelite origin whereas those that remained behind had a different origin.
Similar patterns existed in other areas of Europe.