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jjggbb
01-12-2005, 11:35 PM
I read Ariana's column "America's Finite Future" on the "Working for Change (http://www.workingforchange.org/) " website.

Arianna states "...a number that will only increase as U.S. oil production peaks within the next five years...."

Just wanted to comment that US oil production peaked in 1970 at 9.6 million barrels per day. A brief secondary peak occurred in 1985 at 9.0 million barrels per day as production Alaska levelled of and began to decline. 2003 US daily production averaged 5.7 million barrels per day. The US currently imports 60% of its oil consumption. The production values were taken from the US department of Energy's information website at: http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/aer/txt/ptb0501.html

World oil production is likely to peak within the next five years, at least according to a group of independent petroleum geologists found at http://www.peakoil.net . Total world production now stands at about 83 million barrels per day.

US natural gas is also suffering from production problems and dramatically higher prices over the last 12-24 months, running up from the 2 dollar range to the 7 dollar range. North American natural gas production has likely peaked.

Our energy problems are likely to cause all of our lives, everywhere in the world, to change dramatically, and for the worse, and probably sooner than we think. At least there is something else to worry about, other than global warming.

halva
01-13-2005, 02:13 AM
Global warming and the energy problem are inseparable. Both are the result of burning fossil fuels. The symptoms of global warming problem are more immediate, less hypothetical, and less complicated by speculation about possible 'alternatives' to burning oil.

Jayb
01-14-2005, 05:02 AM
One thought, the Fundamentalist Religion has a view of humanity where if you are not like them, then you are damned and beneath them, hence not deserving of their help. So why have governmental policies that help others? Why have the government working towards the improvement of humanity? These things work against the Rapture taking place. That is a very big no-no.
To accomplish their goal of a Christian Utopia, the Rapture will have to happen, that will mean the killing off of one third of the World population, about 2,000,000,000 (billion) people. To do that will require the muck in the Middle East to get worst not better. It will be necessary to make the human condition worse, it will require certain things to take place in Israel to fit a certain mold, it requires war not peace. What Fundamentalist of the world (both Christian and Muslim) fail to recognize is they are working for Evil. (Evil, energy of huge proportion and intelligence with only one goal, the complete and absolute control, domination, and enslavement of humanity.) For the Rapture to happen Evil must rule.
One last thought, the Rapture will never come about, at least the one Fundamentalist dream about. Fundamentalist hate that, they like being right.

dewey189
01-14-2005, 06:26 AM
What's most ridiculous about the rapture crowd is that they believe they can do things to bring Jesus back on their timetable, rather than his. It's incredibly delusional and arrogant. Someone needs to remind them that the "Left Behind" series is fiction...fiction that has made two guys VERY wealthy.