Anatomy of a Crushing Defeat

[sassafras]

I cannot tell you how very depressed and discouraged I, and scores of others, are at Kerry's loss. I must wholeheartedly agree with Arianna that Kerry's defeat was his own to lose - Bush did not win, Kerry lost.

Democrats must grow BALLS. This timidity, this being afraid of "the big bad wolf" attitude and demeanor must go. The Party OWES its members that much.

Where, oh where, was Howard Dean? The Party didn't want tell-it-like-it-is Howard, so they settled for another good ole' boy who they knew would "listen to reason" and walk the fence. And listen and walk he did. Right down the tubes to defeat.

This election was both spiritual and psychological. A first-year psychology or theology student - or even a lay-person - could have told the Kerry campaign managers that. Bush used the psychology of fear, and he used religion to cross the barriers of age, race, ethnicity, social, and economic class to deceive the American voters. And the Kerry campaign hadn't a clue.

I sincerely hope the country, and most of us, can and will survive another four years of Bush's policies. You can bet that in four years there will be no welfare to speak of, education will continue to go downhill, and college will return to what it used to be - available only to the rich (and white, most likely). Affirmative action programs will be attacked. Roe v. Wade will be reversed. Iraq will expand into Iran, and Bush's plan to "democratize" the Middle East will begin. The poor will get poorer, and crime will rise. Debtor's "prisons" will come back into vogue, especially as the Bush administration privatizes that system even more extensively than it already has. And just as in WWI, it will become illegal to "dissent", to speak out against the government - so those people will begin to be sent to jail, too. It will be the beginning of the mass genocide of the poor, the weak, the disabled, and the elderly. After all, there won't be a need for such massive social service programs if the people they serve are dwindling, either through death or inprisonment, will there?

And if we, as a society, can make it that far, our nation will have become so deeply in debt that we will go bankrupt, which is what Osama bin Laden wants and is waiting for. The Bush administration will have played right into his hands. But will they care? None of them will be personally bankrupt. Bush and his family, Cheney and his family, and countless others in the Bush administration will still be able to go anywhere in the world their money will take them, and live comfortably. But will the rest of us? No. What will happen to the Great Roman Empire? We will die. Our freedom, our abundance, our leadership in the world, will be gone. And because the Bush administration has not signed on to the World Court, those that will bring about it's demise will go unpunished. The American people will sigh and moan to no avail. It will be over.

We will never recover, economically, from this administration. The American people have been deceived and they have chosen evil over good. By the time the scales fall from their collective eyes, it will be too late. If Bush read anything but "My Pet Goat" (ironic in its demonic symbolism by itself) he would realize that true Christians are known by the fruits of the spirit. I suspect he already does know that - but apparently there are far too many "Christians" who do not read their Bible, so they do not know.

Fear, selfishness, lies, and meglomania are not the fruits of a godly spirit, but those of another god, one who wishes to rule the world. Perhaps very telling is the huge '"W" 2004' which was displayed during Bush's "acceptance" speech - psychologically, he is setting himself above the office of the Presidency, and glorifying the man above the Republican Party. (Exactly what Satan has always wanted to do - glorify himself above God - perhaps Bush now thinks of himself as above the law, above reproach, above God HImself? Remember, this is a spiritual battle.)

Anyone can SAY they are a Christian, but remember, how are we to know them? By the fruits of their spirit. And cutting social service programs for those who need it while at the same time cutting jobs by sending them overseas, destroying the environment, curtailing opportunities by cutting education funds, giving huge tax cuts to the rich (who are not, incidently, the ones who generally give to charitable programs the truly benefit the needy - it's the poor and middle class who do that, believe it or not), and waging an immoral war by invading a country, and then imprisoning their women and children, and allowing torture and medical experimentation (who does that remind you of?) to occur, and other inhumane treatment - these are NOT the attributes of a Christian, but just the opposite.

Remember, Satan knows the Bible inside out and probably better than any human being on earth.

So the next time someone spouts off that Bush is such a moral and Christian man with values, ask them why they think that? Opposing abortion and gay marriage isn't enough. Just a smokescreen. Make them see through it. Because if we have a hope in Hell (literally) of getting our country back, we'd better be thinking both psychologically and spiritually. And the next campaign might well heed these words, as well.

That's if we have another campaign. For all we know, we didn't have a fair election this time, and we might never have another one again. Are you so sure YOUR vote counted?

Let those who have eyes, see, and ears, hear - in the end, even the very elect will be deceived. Take care you're not one of them.

[arianabella]

This forum contains highly literate writers who often complement Ariana's own perceptive musings. She's quite right in her bold analysis of what "lost" this election to progressive forces in America. I found this editorial endorsing Kerry in CYRANOS JOURNAL ONLINE (http://www.cjonline.org) a media reform group that I recommend to your attention. I repro part of it here. For the full text, please visit their site.
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WE WON'T WASTE YOUR TIME with a long screed on the reasons for our endorsement. If you're reading these lines, you either landed here by accident or you are a sophisticated observer of our political realities. In the latter case you would expect that a site populated by left-leaning activists would only consider Kerry or Nader as a possible ticket, but never Bush. And in that you'd be perfectly correct.

But we endorse Kerry with enormous reservations. His campaign is one of the most ineptly run efforts in recent memory. Vacillation, equivocations, tardy responses and generally less than smart handling--not to mention very transparent opportunism and pandering to the right on many issues (about which more below)--mark this campaign as one characterized by missed opportunities and self-inflicted injuries.

It's almost shocking that with a target as large as a stranded whale, and with Bush's obvious failures in plain view, in late October, with hardly two weeks to the election, Kerry is still not able to break out ahead of Bush but remains embarrassingly mired in sagging polls and controversy surrounding his clumsy and unnecessary remarks about Dick Cheney's daughter.

Worse still, Kerry obviously continues to march under the bankrupt "GOP lite" formula chosen by the Dems' leadership--a tactic which shamelessly betrays the public interest in just about every major issue.

Granted that it isn't easy or politically wise to speak clearly and honestly to a population so profoundly crippled by rightwing mythologies and backward notions, including the widespread religiosity and self-righteousness that still afflict the American polity. But, even in a close election where some expediency may be in order, attention must be paid to core principles, principles that we have seen much too often breached or applied only haltingly and with stunning miscalculation.

As in almost any country with enormous disparities in income, the majority in the US is objectively on the left, for the majority of the American people continues to experience in their daily lives a huge number of problems, threats, and frustrations chiefly issuing from a governance that, while claiming to be democratic, is, at bottom, oligarchic and thoroughly anti-democratic. How else do we explain the fact that the people need special lobbies to defend their agenda? What are Congress and the President for?

Kerry's biggest mistake in this election may have been allowing his persona to be defined by his foe. In this, there is corroboration coming even from pros in the advertising industry who opined he failed to project a clear "brand"! [deleted text]

The Mad Avenue mavens may be right, but I'm afraid the woes of the Democratic Party and the Kerry candidacy run far deeper than using a wrong-headed marketing approach. At the end of the day, the flaw is strategic and, perhaps even ethical. For while it may be true that elections in tight races are won by catering to the marginal voter--the infamous "undecided"--there is no justification to stray so far from the base as to start denying the very principles that fuel it. This, as mentioned earlier, has been a long-embraced tactic of the Democratic Leadership Council. Democratic apparatchiks like Joe Lieberman, Al Gore, and even the hallowed Clintons, who, for all the hatred and fury they caught from the Right would hardly qualify in the international political arena as anything more than a pair of moderate centrists, have long played and continue to play opportunistic politics. These people are so deeply ensconced in the pockets of the corporate status quo that even when the American people back an initiative 3 to 1, they falter. Such was the case with the short-lived proposal to secure universal health care under the stewardship of Hillary Clinton. There are many other examples.

So this lack of "product differentiation" is now coming home to roost to actually hurt the Dems and possibly lose them an epochal election. Who could blame the public for this? Kerry's position on the war is for all intents and purposes congruent with Bush's--we gotta win, stay the course, bla, bla, and all the rest we have heard before. Heck, it's Bush's policy but better administrated. Is an immoral policy more virtuous if better administrated? Is an unjustified war suddenly justifiable because of a switch in management? Kerry, of all people, should know better.

The flight from principles by the Democratic Party--never too heavily encumbered by such things--was witnessed throughout that long and shameful season preparatory to the Iraq war during which the Dems literally folded as an effective opposition. Compounding this cowardice, the Party went on to stage a jingoistic coronation in Boston (what else are we to call this tightly-scripted extravaganzas?) during which Kerry, once more, opportunistically tilted against his honorable record as a Vietnam War critic, thereby helping to whitewash the criminality of that intervention.

Whatever the outcome on Nov. 2, the Democratic Party, as we know it, is in big trouble. If it loses, there is a high probability that the fissure between the opportunist right-wing leaning top tier and the left-leaning base will--like tectonic plates under enormous tension--snap and cause a huge convulsion likely to split the party into two irreconcilable factions.

If it wins, trouble will not manifest itself so rapidly, due to the "honeymoon effect," and the celebratory afterglow issuing from the Republican defeat, but the contradiction will surely re-emerge in time. The reason for this is actually quite simple: no party wedded lock, stock and barrel to the current brand of American capitalism and the obsolete myths underwriting it can hope to escape for long the mounting social turmoil caused by the sheer intractability of the unfolding global crisis.

Consider job loss, about which there is much equivocation.

Over the middle and long-run, the shrinking of the job base is likely to continue unabated here and abroad since it is inexorably embedded in the dynamic of replacing human labor with machines. (See our companion article on this topic.) Upticks may register here and there--economic activity is inherently uneven--but when we look at the whole field, over a period of years, it's obvious that, unless we stop technological progress altogether, fewer and fewer workers will be needed in every sector of the economy. This will hold true in both the developed and underdeveloped world.

Machine labor should not be feared because higher productivity in and of itself promises liberation from toil. The problem is that under the current set of property rules, the lion's share of the additional income goes to the owning and managerial classes, while the vast majority are forced to make do with sharply reduced incomes or no incomes at all. Thus, all the talk about "outsourcing," with its controversial and faintly chauvinist overtones, is a mere distraction on the road to the real crisis, which is structural. No amount of retraining or education will cure it.

The wits said that Napoleon lost Waterloo in the fields of Eton. We say the Democrats, to explain a defeat in November, will have to take a hard look at the past 20 years. For it is at least that long that is required to start telling the truth to the American people, educating them about the real causes for the intractability of the problems they face, the ostensible madness and confusion they see around the world, and to start forming a broad movement capable of sustaining and implementing a new vision. Until that essential work is done, the Democrats or any party purporting to offer real solutions--a new economy capable of meeting people's needs here and abroad, and the determination to stop the pillage of our planet and fellow creatures--will be either a witting fraud or a prisoner of the narrow status quo enforced by the Right. It isn't too hard to see how these limits have crippled the Democratic Party's ability to fire up the masses.

The straitjacket can be broken, all right, but it takes dedicated, courageous work. In 2004 the Democrats are asking for our vote without having done any of this essential work. Their rhetoric and formulas are shopworn; their solutions woefully inadequate to deal with the deepening crisis. Their accidental triumph, should it happen, may give the world a respite from the deepening chaos and plunder induced by the Bush administration. And, no doubt, there are some important areas, such as the Supreme Court and the judiciary, the injection of religiosity at the highest levels of governance, the intractable problem of jobs, and the environment, where the dictinctions between the parties may actually amount to something. In that sense the Dems are clearly and compellingly preferable to the Republicans. Hence our endorsement. But, for a real and lasting solution, we must all look beyond the Democratic Party in its current incarnation.

D.P. Greanville
For the editorial board


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[halva]

November 5, 2004-Using a variety of criminal methods that they have perfected over the past four years, the George W. Bush-Dick Cheney-Karl Rove syndicate stole another election, and extended their illegal occupation of the White House. Experienced, informed and unblinking observers were not fooled by any aspect of this utterly predictable goose-step towards full dictatorship.

But to those who are "shocked" as they watched the election night numbers mysteriously slip away amidst controversy; those who are struggling to understand "what happened", let this cold realization serve as bracing edification.

Welcome to hell. Welcome to the horrifying reality that whistleblowers have suffered and fought through every day, over lifetimes. No more illusions. This is reality.

It Is a Rigged Game
The US political and economic system, exemplified by Bush-Cheney, is deeply criminalized. It is designed to profit by killing things. It thrives on war and oppression. It is sustained by collusion, fraud, lies, cover-up, and the indoctrination and manipulation of minds. It does not, and never has, represented its people. Its operatives heed no laws. They "make" law. These facts must be burned into the consciousness of every decent human being.

As Mike Ruppert writes in Crossing The Rubicon: "That profits of crime and war, which are destructive of human life, of labor, of happy, healthy neighborhoods (whether in the US or in Afghanistan, Africa and Iraq) are in effect a keystone of the global economy and a determinant of the success in a ruthless competition, is a compass needle for human civilization. One cannot expect to follow the recipe for roadkill stew and produce a crème brulee."
Criminals do not obey laws. Criminals do not believe in "democracy".

Criminals do not "permit" elections.
It is foolish, then, to expend one's energies in "clean" election activities, and expect good results. To quote one of George W. Bush many recent Freudian non-slips, "we make elections." The 2004 presidential election was just one more "manufacture".

How John Kerry Unwon the Presidency
How Bush-Cheney stole the 2000 election was a matter of obvious historical fact, confirmed by post-facto mainstream media reports of a Gore win, and detailed by numerous investigators such as Greg Palast in his book The Best Democracy Money Can Buy. Voters complained about old machines and paper ballots.

Then came the "black box voting" machines. (For detailed analysis of black box voting, read the work of Bev Harris.)

In the 2002 mid-term elections, the Republicans "shocked" Democrats by solidifying their power in Congress, using the same fraudulent methods, along with new and improved black box technology.

"The technology had a trial run in the 2002 mid-term elections. In Georgia, serviced by new Diebold systems, a popular Democratic governor and senator were both unseated in what the media called 'amazing' upsets, with results showing vote swings of up to 16 percent from the last pre-ballot polls. In computerized Minnesota, former Vice President Walter Mondale-a replacement for popular incumbent Paul Wellstone, who died in a plane crash days before the vote-was also defeated in a large last-second vote swing. Convenient 'glitches' in Florida saw an untold number of votes intended for the Democratic candidate registering instead for Governor Jeb "L'il Brother" Bush. A Florida Democrat who lost a similarly 'glitched' local election went to court to have the computers examined-but the case was thrown out by a judge who ruled that the innards of America's voting machines are the 'trade secrets' of the private companies who make them."

In 2003, black box voting also helped oust Governor Gray Davis and installed Republican Arnold Schwarzenegger in the Democratic stronghold of California.

The probability of a fix was obvious throughout the 2004 presidential campaign. Corporate media polls continued to predominantly favor Bush, never dipping his rating below 48 percent, despite his trouncing in three straight debates with Kerry, and despite mushrooming war scandals. This was in stark contrast to independent surveys that showed Kerry with commanding leads. Kerry momentum, and massive Kerry/anti-Bush voter turnout, was evident on election day, and confirmed by exit polls with dominant Kerry numbers.
Then what?

Greg Palast reveals in exhaustive detail that John Kerry won the 2004 election and had it stolen through such methods as "spoilage", intimidation, polling place chicanery, ethnic cleansing of polls. (See Kerry Won. And here.)

Once again, criminals do not "permit" elections. They make them. This time, the Bush forces had years of unencumbered time to orchestrate it, from Ohio (where its notorious secretary of state is the head of the Bush re-election campaign), and, of course, Jeb Bush's Florida.
The Triumph of the Bush Machines

But there is one overriding fact that has been left out most of the ridiculous post-election punditry that renders all other analyses completely irrelevant. It is also the reason why the smiles on the faces of Bush crime family members are so bright, as they watched the returns on election night.

Air America Radio's Mike Malloy gave the most succinct and passionate explanation in his Wednesday, November 3, 2004, program [my links included-LC]:

"The American vote count is controlled by three major corporate players, Diebold, ESS, Sequoia, and a fourth, SAIC, Science Applications International. All four are hard-wired into the Bush power structure, the Bush crime family.

"They have been given millions of dollars by the Bush regime to complete a sweeping computerization of voting machines that were just used in the 2004 election. The technology involved had a trial run during the 2002 mid-term elections. Georgia had Diebold machines in every precinct. As a result, a popular Democratic governor and senator were both unseated in what the media called an "amazing" 16 percent swing.

[halva]

"Diebold's Walden O'Dell, a top Bush fundraiser, publicly committed himself to delivering his home state Ohio's votes to Bush. At Diebold, the election division is run by Bob Urosevich. Bob's brother, Todd, is a top executive at "rival" ES&S. The brothers were originally staked by Howard Ahmanson, a member of the Council For National Policy, a right-wing steering group stacked with Bush true believers. Ahmanson is also one of the bagmen behind the extremist Christian Reconstruction Movement, which advocates the theocratic takeover of American democracy.

"The four companies are interconnected; they are not four "competitors". Ahmanson has large stakes in ES&S, whose former CEO was Republican Senator Chuck Hagel of Nebraska. When Hagel ran for office, his own company counted the votes, and his victory was considered "an amazing upset". Hagel still has a million dollar stake in ES&S.
"Sequoia is the corporate parent of a private equity firm, Madison Dearborn, which is partner in the Carlyle Group. (Also see here.)

"Meanwhile, SAIC is referred to a "shadowy defense contractor". They have gotten into the vote count game both directly and through spinoffs by its top brass, including Admiral Bill Owens, former military aide to Dick Cheney, and Carlyle Group honcho Frank Carlucci and ex-CIA chief Robert Gates. SAIC's history of fraud charges and security "lapses" haven't prevented it from becoming one of the largest Pentagon and CIA contractors, and will doubtless encounter few obstacles in its entrance into the vote counting business.

"The mad rush to install these unverifiable computers is driven by the Help America Vote Act, signed by …Bush! The chief lobbying group pushing for the act (while we dumb asses sat out here and thought, 'That sounds like a good idea!') was a consortium of arms dealers including Northrup Grumman and Lockheed Martin.

"When you hear people saying, 'take a deep breath, we will pull through this', 'we need to work harder', 'we need to organize'-no. We will not. It's over.

"Unless electronic vote tabulation is history, and these companies are driven out of business, it's their country. Not ours.

"Nobody knows, and no one will ever know, what the actual vote count was.

"There are no checks and balances left. The US Senate now has 55 of these Republicans. When they hit 60, which is what will happen in 2006 mid-term elections-trust me-that means that no matter what Bush and the crime family want to do, they can do it. The House (of Representatives) is gone for the next two to five generations. It's gone.

"The last thing rational people in this country need right now is this whistling-past-the-graveyard horse hockey. Nothing is going to happen; it's going to get worse. There will never again be a legitimate election in this county.

"Until we get rid of the machines.

The people who put the software together-do you think that they are in this business to promote democracy? To promote representative government? Then you are a fool, and you don't deserve anything other than the lash.

Kerry did not lose the election. The vote was stolen. Get that through your head."
The Bush syndicate owns and runs the machines that make the votes. They control all branches of the federal government.

There is nothing more painful than witnessing the Kerry voters, liberals and progressives as they agonize over "what went wrong," second guessing their Herculean efforts, grasping for solutions in outdated ideas, and vowing how "next time, we'll work harder, and we'll really get out the vote!", and that "we'll nominate even better candidates!"

Still others are asking reasonable questions. Why aren't Walden O'Dell, Jeb Bush, and J. Kenneth Blackwell under arrest, or in jail? Exactly how did Associated Press pull it off on election night? Will any of the Bush administration criminals ever be punished for their war crimes? Then one must ask, who is going to prosecute? Who is going to hear the cases? The Bush Justice Department? The Bush FBI? The Supreme Court?

When you play fair in a rigged game, it doesn't matter how hard you work, or even what you do. Insanity is repeating the same mistake, expecting a different result.

[halva]

Kerry Welcomes Fascism with Open Arms
John Kerry's pitiful and immediate capitulation, surrendering with even less of a fight than Al Gore in 2000, despite clear, overt and gross vote fraud across the country, including Ohio-Diebold's home state-was sickening.

Bush's Skull & Bones fraternity brother then spoke of "healing" and uniting behind Bush, a speech grotesquely reminiscent of Al Gore's sickening 2000 declaration that Bush was "mah president."

Twice now, with Gore and Kerry, Democrats have won the White House, and then refused to speak the truth about the crime, and fight for the people who bled for them. Twice, America has been sold out.

Could it be that this time, Kerry played the American people in just another game of bait-and-switch?

Will those who supported Kerry actually heed his command, and obediently march in step, "without anger or rancor," and follow George W. Bush, the strutting tyrant, and the most dangerous and irrational collection of mass-murdering war criminals in modern history?
In a cynical view, and one that is likely accurate, the election of 2004 may have been nothing more than an elaborate trial balloon, a "good cop-bad cop" theater that is mandated every few years to uphold the appearance of legitimacy. Our candidates lie, all the while gauging the effectiveness of long-term manipulation programs. They think, are the people still gullible and uninformed? What slogans and illusions can we fool them with? Is the "war on terrorism" mindset still unwavering? How far can we push them? Will they accept the baseball bat in the face, or the velvet glove to the nose?

How many beatings will this republic take, before its people wake up? When will the people realize what is really happening, and "chase us down the street and lynch us" (as George H.W. Bush said to reporter Sarah McClendon)?

To hell with Bush. To hell with Kerry. Wait, We're All Already Here.

As sadistic Bush slurred in his "acceptance" speech, "a new term is a new opportunity". Then the most chilling words yet: "I earned political capital. I intend to spend it." If the last four years brought the world to its knees, imagine what is to come as Bush-Cheney giddily pry open a new set of larger Pandora's Boxes.

Webster Tarpley, author of the Unauthorized Biography of George Bush writes: "If Bush retains control of the White House, we can expect a neocon fascist dictatorship or martial law emergency regime in 2005 or 2006, possibly as the result of synthetic terrorism. The neocons are in a desperate flight forward mentality which seeks to avoid the penal consequences of what they have already done with Valerie Plame, the Niger yellowcake forgeries, the Israeli mole scandal, and the Chalabi betrayal of state secrets. The neocon preference is for early war with Iran. War with Russia and China cannot be excluded somewhat further down the road."
Add to that the relentless horror that will be inflicted when the effects of Peak Oil (also see From The Wilderness and Richard Heinberg) crash home in earnest, the body bags pile higher with new wars, and the lives of Americans (including Bush drones) and people all over the world continue to be destroyed.

Some members of the current Bush crime organization may leave or retire, and the possibilities include Donald Rumsfeld, and John Ashcroft (possibly replaced with Marc Racicot, a long-time friend of George W. Bush, and W's first choice for attorney general in 2000). Expect their replacements to be less well known criminals who, if anything, may be more toxic.

Robert Lederman wrote of Racicot: "Numerous members of the Bush family, including his father and brothers and at least one of GW's prospective cabinet appointees-potential GW Bush Attorney General Marc Racicot-have a history of alleged involvement in drug running at the highest levels. We're not talking about buying drugs for personal use here but massive importations of heroin and cocaine with the full involvement of foreign dictators like George Bush pal Manuel Noriega and the Mafia." (See Murder and Drug Running in Montana)
In Robert Payne's biography The Life and Death of Adolf Hitler, he writes of Hitler (whose Third Reich was, in fact, financed by the Bush family): "For all the foreseeable future, he will remain to haunt us, more alive than ever although he is dead. He hides in shadowy places and at the pinnacle of power, always urging men to commit the ultimate crime, the perfect atrocity, the most ferocious massacres. Into the ears of generals and politicians he whispers: "Be merciless. It is very easy now because I have lived. I have reduced the value of man to a fraction of what it was before. You will find, if you continue along the path I have opened for you, the value of man will decline still further. Remember, mankind is always valueless and its only use is to serve our interests. We alone are transmitters of civilization, and the people are nothing but cattle. Napalm is good for them."

Hitler himself wrote: "The victor will not be asked, later on, whether he told the truth or not. In starting and waging a war, it is not right that matters, but victory. Have no pity."
Hitler had nothing on the George W. Bush administration.

What, if any, silver lining can be found in the wake of this new goose-step in the abyss? Perhaps only that the same bellicose, predictable and clumsy villains remain right where they have been for the last four years: right in front of us. Better that than a crafty and likeable neoliberal John Kerry administration that lulls the world to sleep before poison is administered.
We cannot be fooled.

Larry Chin is a freelance journalist and an Online Journal Associate Editor.
Copyright © 1998-2004 Online Journal™. All rights reserved.

[whitemajikman]

HALVA GIVE IT UP.........

Kerry Lost........

Fair and square.......

Even I am guilty of calling Bush a Nazi........

But upon further reveiw ...........

Kerry is the poster child of the ELITE........

It begs asking whether or not you even know that you are BrainWashed By Your Leftist Leaning's......

And if you Really know who is Truly more of a danger to this country.......

And it's citizen's..........

Face the facts you have been DUPED......

WMM

[whitemajikman]

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[Y-U-AGR]

The saddest part of the presidential election results are those so called



DEMOCRATS :rolleyes: ( probably NEO CON TERRORISTS IN DISGUISE)



WHO CANNOT

SEE

THE TREE

FOR THE

FOREST! :confused:



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